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Re: What do I do?

by Casual Observer » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:32 pm

Can we talk about taking up a collection to buy this man some decent fish?

Re: What do I do?

by Casual Observer » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:27 am

I fucking love Primus.

Re: What do I do?

by pinback » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:00 am

Casual Observer wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:25 pm And. . . This is why we have a botulism\salmon thread. Maybe throw some extra coin and get some decent fish.
Hold up, we need to play your walk-off song after a take like that.

Re: What do I do?

by pinback » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:58 am

Paul, let me illustrate your disease:
You wrote:since salmon costs about $20-30 a pound
I wrote:You have no idea how much salmon costs.
You wrote:Well, of course not! I don't buy salmon.
You look something up on the internet, or infer something from what you looked up on the internet, and come here and state it as a fact, even though you have no idea what you're talking about, and then get all pissy when someone tells you you're wrong, instead of the alternative, which would be not posting authoritatively about things you know nothing about.

But then all that would be left would be your signature storage thread, and given the storage and hosting costs associated with that one, ICJ may not be able to afford to keep it around much longer.

Re: What do I do?

by Casual Observer » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:28 pm

Tdarcos wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:46 pm
pinback wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:57 am I have never paid over $16 a pound for sockeye at any grocery store I've ever been to in my life, and actually can't recall ever paying more than $12.99. At this point I wait until the $9.99 sale, which happens very frequently.

You have no idea how much salmon costs.
Well, of course not! I don't buy salmon. I've never eaten salmon. But again, you had to act like a [insert expletive here] and just say I don't know what salmon costs, then give zero information to tell me.
You really missed out buddy, good salmon is delicious. And you're 100% right about the cost of good, fresh salmon.

Re: What do I do?

by Casual Observer » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:25 pm

pinback wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:57 am I have never paid over $16 a pound for sockeye at any grocery store I've ever been to in my life, and actually can't recall ever paying more than $12.99. At this point I wait until the $9.99 sale, which happens very frequently.
And. . . This is why we have a botulism\salmon thread. Maybe throw some extra coin and get some decent fish.

Re: What do I do?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:11 pm

I am acting fairly. You find one place in America for less than 70, 80 bucks a pound and I send the key immediately.

Re: What do I do?

by Tdarcos » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:46 pm

pinback wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:57 am I have never paid over $16 a pound for sockeye at any grocery store I've ever been to in my life, and actually can't recall ever paying more than $12.99. At this point I wait until the $9.99 sale, which happens very frequently.

You have no idea how much salmon costs.
Well, of course not! I don't buy salmon. I've never eaten salmon. But again, you had to act like a [insert expletive here] and just say I don't know what salmon costs, then give zero information to tell me. So, then, someone else starts doubling down on this and is quoting prices of
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:09 pm At thirty or forty bucks a pound, you didn't throw it out, did you?
and
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:26 pm If TDARCOS finds a single place in America selling sockeye for less than 60, 70 bucks a pound I will send him a Steam key for Cryptozookeeper.
Lead me to believe the numbers I quoted were too low. But since you acted like a goddam 1970s compiler in which you pass it a 1,000 line program and at the end it says "Error." No indication of where the error is or what the error is. Act like a [expletive deleted], you get treated likev one.

Since you were never intending to be acting fairly, I will presume Jonsey isn't either, so I won't expect anything from him. You know what? You win, I am now exiting this conversation.

Re: What do I do?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:26 pm

If TDARCOS finds a single place in America selling sockeye for less than 60, 70 bucks a pound I will send him a Steam key for Cryptozookeeper.

Re: What do I do?

by pinback » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:57 am

I have never paid over $16 a pound for sockeye at any grocery store I've ever been to in my life, and actually can't recall ever paying more than $12.99. At this point I wait until the $9.99 sale, which happens very frequently.

You have no idea how much salmon costs.

Re: What do I do?

by Tdarcos » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:43 am

pinback wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:26 am
salmon costs about $20-30 a pound
You have no idea how much salmon costs.
Well, educate me. Point me to a location of a website for a store or chain and what the price is. According to this search, there are many different prices. After some floating abstractions that give some prices but don't say where or how much you get at that price, the first reference says "$15-30 per pound." In the questions, one reads "How much is a whole sockeye salmon?" to which the answer is "Whole-side fillets are available at $19.95 lb. Sockeye Whole Fillets range from 1-2.5 lbs." The next question there is. "How much is sockeye salmon per pound at Costco?| to which the answer is, "Best Costco Frozen Food: Kirkland Signature Wild Sockeye Salmon ($37) Trader Joe's Wild Sockeye Salmon goes for $12 a pound, whereas Costco's wild salmon package is $30 for three pounds." The next item lists it at $18/lb. Go further down the page, and Amazon is selling 10lb sockeye salmon filets for $189, which is $18.90 a pound.

Since a local store can't compete against the high efficiency of Amazon, I will stick with my original figure of $20-$30 a pound. You got evidence that it is much higher priced at ordinary stores, present it including the website. "Links or it ain't real." (The older version of "Pictures or it didn't happen.")

Re: What do I do?

by Flack » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:42 pm

It's amazing how long human beings survived without warning labels.

Re: What do I do?

by pinback » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:28 pm

DJ Larry signed up for "ButcherBox", where they send you overpriced meat through the mail. He did this under the guise of "eating more fish". Unclear why he couldn't just go to the store, but knowing the prices there in Humboldt Co., it's probably cheaper to get it through the mail, even with a 200% delivery markup. (He cannot get a dozen eggs for less than $7 there.)

He gets some sockeye salmon -- the finest of all salmons -- in his first shipment. He asks me about preparation techniques, because we're chompin' on salmon on the regular over in these parts, since it's only $60-$70 per pound in the Buckeye State. Excited about my suggestions, he begins the thawing procedure.

But -- disaster! The next day he reports that he thought he only got two salmon fillet portions, but there were six in the box. He thawed the whole box! And showed me proof, by showing me a picture of his six shrink-wrapped sockeye portions sittin' out there on his counter, thawed as the day is long.

I said, no problem, sockeye for six days in a row (or three, if you have it for both meals, which I definitely could/would.) He says, it says use within 24 hours of thawing. I say, that's nonsense, refrigerate it and you're good to go.

THEN, almost JOKINGLY, because I noticed they were still shrink-wrapped, and I know that most (not all!) frozen fish you buy comes with an admonition (usually in tiny, tiny print) that you should remove the fish from the shrink-wrap before thawing (and never thaw at room temperature, but I'll get to that later), I say, hey, did it say to remove the shrink-wrap first?

Well, he said, yes, it DID say to do that, but he didn't bother. I said, huh, okay, well, don't worry, I don't believe what this webpage says, and I sent him a link to one of the many, many hysterical, ridiculous clickbait sites saying, omg if you thaw in the package, you might get BOTULISM and DIE.

He says darn, was really looking forward to this salmon.

I says, ha ha ha, good joke.

And the next thing he sends me is a photo of all six salmons, the finest fish on the planet, still in their shrink-wrap, now sitting cozily with each other in his trash can.

"You're kidding, right?"

He was not.

I have never been more angry at this man. That shit is not cheap, he does not make much money, and because of some bizarre phobia, he's thrown them all in the trash. Nothing would dissuade him. I pointed out that there are approximately 30 food-borne botulism cases in the entire country every year, and most of them are in Alaska. He said, "so, there's not a zero percent chance." This is a guy who has polluted his body with alcohol and other intoxicants on the daily for decades, has once again become overweight, is clinically depressed, but because he found out there was a 0.000001% chance he might die from botulism from these salmons, he tossed them.

I have done the two things the packaging demands you don't do -- thawing at room temperature, and thawing in the shrink-wrap -- approximately ten billion times, and though I haven't kept close track, I believe my death count is still holding steady at zero.

The lawyers at the packaging place come up with a possible liability and write a warning about it on the packaging. Jackass clickbait webpage authors look it up and find out why the lawyers would have something to be nervous about and write a breathless, sensationalistic page about it. And this man who is very very concerned about his health except for the 23 hours and 59 minutes a day he is not throwing out perfectly good sockeye spends the rest of his time throwing away perfectly good sockeye.

Fuck you.

Re: What do I do?

by AArdvark » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:18 pm

It's been three days, the fish has worn out it's welcome. Tell us, did you eat the fish?

THE
AIRPLANE!
AARDVARK

Re: What do I do?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:23 pm

At forty, fifty bucks a pound for fish he tossed, yeah, he can afford a new profile.

Re: What do I do?

by RealNC » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:50 pm

Should we expect a profile image change any day now?

Re: What do I do?

by Jizaboz » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:27 pm

Obviously too late but next time just thaw in the plastic in a sink of cold water until they soften up. Never thaw seafood at room temp.

However! It being salmon I would have just smelled it after your thawing method. If it has no strong fishy smell and you plan on cooking it at least until the fat starts bubbling, it’s extremely unlikely anyone is getting sick.

Re: What do I do?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:00 pm

But at least you can tell the temperature at any time now by looking at your veins.

Re: What do I do?

by bryanb » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:20 pm

I actually cut my grocery bill in half just by switching from RetroRomper Select brand salmon to the store brand. The downsides are that I'm now actually eating mislabeled tilapia, it's loaded with mercury, and I no longer get points redeemable for half gallon bottles of hot sauce, but those savings are just too good to ignore.

Re: What do I do?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:09 pm

At thirty or forty bucks a pound, you didn't throw it out, did you?

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