WHERE IS IT?

[Lex]

Didn't Robb once post a now-you've-played-it-here-are-some-cool-factoids thing? Including how to get all the points? Cos I only just completed Fallacy of Dawn.

Also: I'm going to ask Robb, right here, where he has to appear like a nice guy by saying yes no matter what, to do the speech for me. I can't handle his frightening conversation-arrays. They make me cry.

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

If you've finished Fallacy of Dawn, you possibly noticed that there was no "amusing" bit provided at the end of it. I meant to have one, but I couldn't remember how to put one in and, with it being a longish kind of game, I didn't think that anyone would necessarily read it and go, "Ah, I'll play through this again and see those bits I missed" or anything.

So, if you've finished the game, read on. While a lot of attempted-amusing moments came from talking to the other characters (those bits aren't listed in this), here are some things you may have missed:

(Oh -- after each bit below in black there will be a "hidden" bit that you can see if you hi-light the text with your mouse.)



FALLACY OF DAWN

(Text stuff)

Did you ever...

o feel a similarity between the city map of New Haz and that of some other game? 'The right-hand side of the map for Skara Brae in the first Bard's Tale game maps almost square-for-square for the right-hand side of New Haz, including a never-ending Sinister Street equivalent ("Sunset Street" in FoD). Where the Adventurer's Guild is in BT1, the Sushi Bar is in FoD. Similarly, Clara's house is where Garth's Equipment Shoppe is, and the Funtime Mall is where the Wine Cellar Dungeon is in BT1.


o wonder what the street names were named for? They almost all come from video games. 'Boggit' after 'Fungus the Boggit Man' in Knight Orc, 'Erik' after the name of the Prince in The Pawn, 'Duffy' after the police officer in Deadline, 'Rygarr Street' from, er, Rygarr, 'Skarg' from Unreal, 'Konrad' from Fade to Black, 'Holden' from Blade Runner, 'Grand Plaza' from the 'Gran Plaz' in Bard's Tale I, 'Pang Street' after the character Pang from Chicks Dig Jerks, 'Kim Street' after the character Kim Kimberly from Snowball, 'Loome Street' from, er, 'Loom', 'Grotto Street' from Breach II (which had a level called the 'Grisly Grotto,' natch) and of course 'Jaylin' Street after Jalen McKeon from Revenger. Coffman Ave was the only one not based on a game: that is named after a street in Longmont where I was approached by a real-life street dealer selling watches while trying to pick up a pizza. Appropriately gritty, I thought, at the time.


o notice that though there seems to be a Joust game in the game's first graphic, it's not a game that Delarion mentions as being there? >examine joust reveals... 'One of us must be seeing things -- there isn't a Joust game here.' followed by a cyan commentary bit that says 'Wave 8 -- Beware of the "Unbeatable?" Pterodactyl!'



o go back and play the Sega system in Porn's house after getting your head fixed?

'I'm probably supposed to be too busy to play or something, but forget it. I'm playing some Sega!

"Get your game on, Porn, I'm going to put on a clinic in front of my woman as to how good I am with babies. Mainly because -- I'm going to spank you in NHL Powerplay '96 like the Gerber one."

"You talk a lot of shit for a guy who hasn't been able to play so much as Punkirita Quest on a bad mobile phone lately."

"I'm going to talk even more when LaFontaine is dancing around your goal like he owns it. Your only hope at pulling out victory is if the goal counter resets to 0 after I score my 32,768th of the night."

"You know," says Porn, as he turns it on, "you're lucky you're friends with me, because nobody else is liable to know what the fuck you're talking about." He hands me the controller and although I don't quite put on the clinic I purported to, I do manage to eke out a 6-5 victory. We put the game away and get back to business, but not before I get a smile and a little kiss.'

(Er, from Clara, I mean.)



o try looking at the light bulb in the Post Office?
'The poor girl only gets one light bulb for the entire office. It dangles from the ceiling in a slightly symbolically depressing manner. It lights the room in like something out of a dystopian, Orwellian-Kafkaesque literary collaboration.'"



o try following McCormick when he leaves the Music Shop?
He ends up going to the Cock Fights to hide. If following him there, you get to rap with Jalen (the player character from Revenger) for a bit before trying to capture McCormick again.



o try hitting any of the statues in the Hacker Hall of Shame?


o try reading the Monster Manual in Trott's apartment?
'It's too lengthy to read right now -- but I sneak a peak at the picture of the Succubus on page 18. Me-freaking-ow!'


o attempt to look for the Spanish Inquisition after Yar mentions it in the Sushi Place? 'Well, nobody expects it, really.'


o attempt to enter the "small museum commemorating Scotland's World Cup Championship" that Yar mentions on the east end of Holden Street? 'I was only kidding. Scotland will never win a World Cup.' (Yes, that was put there for Lex Gray's benefit.)



(Graphics stuff)

Did you ever...

o take a look inside the refrigerator in the Break Room? (I hope you did, because it was there due to uber-beta-man Greg D'Avis's suggestion. He gets credit for that one.)

o Go back and put any one of the movies into the projector and then start the projector after Delarion's surgery?

o attempt to piss off the bus driver (by trying to hit him, for instance) and then see his visual reaction (this works when Scorez is not on the bus)?

o walk around the halls of the middle floor of the gray building with and without the pistol?

o take a close look at the bar that the robot Hitler was within and identify what (now off-the-air) NBC show it was based on? (For the record, the photo I took was at a Hollywood exhibit in L.A.; it's not a screen cap)

o try looking at the newspaper that the arcade customer drops in the arcade?

o notice that, indeed, Mitchell is in fact wearing a genuine Burn:Cycle t-shirt?

o ...along the same lines, identify the logo on Delarion's shirt? A hint: it's from a website as hardcore about gaming as he is.

o discern the real-world identity of the body in the morgue? It's a post dye-job-days me, actually.

o get Porn's sample business card (via talking to him) in the Sushi Place? The card in question is one of Greg Slemons's photoshopped Fallout perk cards.

o attempt to take a look at Porn's E3 badge? (I changed the lettering around on mine from E3 1998 Atlanta. Poor Porn was exhibits-only as well.)

o identify the posters that Porn has hanging up in his bedroom? Revenger was one, of course, and the only other IF game I could find that had a movie-style poster done for it was Arrival by Stephen Granade. What can I say, but Porn was a big fan.

o notice all the piled-up pizza boxes in Porn's kitchen? In fact that was a picture of <b>my</b> kitchen, and the sheer number of boxes there (er, 15 by my count) wasn't a photoshopped effect at all.

o notice that the text refers to the first edition of the AD&D Monster Manual in Trott's apartment, but that Clara in fact appears to be holding up the third edition?

o take a look at the framed newspaper that Trott has up in his apartment?

o notice the word against the wall for the Doctor's Office? (It's "Duffy" -- that was an image I found on the internet to use. The Office was originally supposed to be on Duffy Street (thus making sense) but I moved it to the Grand Plaza and didn't update the graphic.)

o identify the posters in Delarion's room? (Knight Orc and Mallrats: the quasi-interesting bit is that in reality the room photographed belonged to Aaron Fodge, who played the part of the Doctor in the game.)

[Lex]

Did you ever post that on RAIF? 'cos if it was here, well, not a huge number of ppl from the comminity-in-its-entirety go here, but if you were to actually post it (or a link to it if placed within your "chix" directory), that would probably generate some LOLs and I Never Knew That!s.

Do it.
Or I might have to.

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

It wouldn't be the same on raif, because there is no way to hide text. OK, I could use ROT13, but I'm going to discount and ignore that because it would be contrary to my gut feeling.

There's one thing that people on the interactive fiction newsgroup do not particularly care for -- and that's self-promotion. So, me placing that there would be a bit of a faux pas. (It counts if you get one of your friends to do it as well.) Additionally, the very content is very "look at me!! look at me!!! look at me!!!"-ish, and that doesn't come off well either.

If it's OK with you, I'll change the title of this thread to "Fallacy of Dawn Easter Eggs," though, so at least anyone wandering around the site can find it.

[Kent]

And rich. Now *I* have to get cracking so my own stuff doesn't have (in comparison) the my-first-apartment-game bleakness that it currently does.

[bruce]

IIRC correctly, Clara is holding up the *Second*, not the *Third* Edition Monster Manual. The Succubus is indeed on Page 18 in the First Edition, but she moves to Pages 43-44 in 3d (stat block is on 41). She is not in the Second Edition, because that's when TSR was being all pussies about Satan Worship, and stuff.

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

IIRC correctly, Clara is holding up the *Second*, not the *Third* Edition Monster Manual. The Succubus is indeed on Page 18 in the First Edition, but she moves to Pages 43-44 in 3d (stat block is on 41). She is not in the Second Edition, because that's when TSR was being all pussies about Satan Worship, and stuff.

Ah, that's right. Second edition, not third. I miscounted somewhere -- didn't they have something between the first edition MM and that one that was in loose-format, and you'd have to put them in a three-ring binder yourself? I could very well be mad and have imagined the whole thing. But you're right, the monsters described in that are all for the 2nd edition of the AD&D game.


I related the whole story to Bruce, but not everyone else, but anyway: In real life, Clorinda had a book open that was not a D&D book at all, but it was around the same size (the picture that was there was photoshopped in). The first edition of the Monster Manual is in black and white and it wouldn't come out looking very well if I had used the genuine Succubus page, so I cheated and put a picture of the Lich (if I remember right) from the second edition Monster Manual, which was in color.

Also, I bought the Mallrats poster that was (again) photoshopped into Yar's bedroom a couple months ago. So if I had to do again, I could do it 00.01% less graphics tomfoolery.

Also #2, ISDA seems to have taken down their quote which is shown on the very first screen in the game. (I couldn't find it the last time I was there.) But it was there, I swear.

Annnnnnnd Also #3, the shot which depicts the outside of the apartment that Loafergirl's character is in actually leads to the townhouse of one Jeff Kyle, whom you might recall played Admiral Scorez in the game and is also the guy who posted as "Jethro Q. Walrustitty" on the old RFTK board. (He just put a deposit down on a house, so it looks like he will be leaving that place in a bit, FWIW.)

[bruce]

Ah, that's right. Second edition, not third. I miscounted somewhere -- didn't they have something between the first edition MM and that one that was in loose-format, and you'd have to put them in a three-ring binder yourself?

There was the 2E <i>Monstrous Manual</i> which was basically the <i>Monster Manual</i> for 2E. Then there were indeed a whole lot of supplements puiblished as looseleaf, plus a whole bunch of Monstrous Compendia for the various campaign settings.

I've seen the 3E <i>Fiend Folio</i>, and it doesn't have the Flumph, so piss on it. Except that it probably is a bit more than "some fucked-up British Monsters and 27 different variations on the Humble Skeleton" which is, alas, a fair description of 1E <i>FF</i>. I may go buy <i>The Book Of Vile Darkness</i> when I have some money.

But shouldn't this be over in some other forum anyway?

Bruce

[Lex]

I think that HALO should've been a text adventure.

Or better yet, Doom.

You are in dark, ominous room.

Mr. Chafe is here.

>SHOOT MISTER CHAFE

Mr. Chafe shoots, and hits you. You have 80 health, and 40 ammo.

>idkfa

Mr. Chafe has been demolished into his component gore.

>ROFL!!!
KEKEKEKEKE ^__^!

Fucking ruled.