What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

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Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by pinback » Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:48 pm

ChainGangGuy wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:27 pm Apartment F209. A tidy IF romp that got you in and out and on with your day.
Oh man. Look, there's a walkthrough.

http://www.plover.net/~davidw/sol/a/apart97.html

It's strange, looking at that map. That's how it was laid out. A flood of real-life memories bursting from each rectangle (well, except the bedroom which I never went in after I piled all my boxes in there on the first day.) The kind of memories that you know very well you were miserable at the time, but now you look back on fondly.

I lived there with a folding cot, a folding chair, a folding table, a cat that hated me, and nothing else, and at the time I was like, what a mess I've made of my life, and now if you asked me if I wanted to live in an empty room with a folding cot, table, chair, and a hateful cat, I would be on my way there before you finished describing the offer.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:09 pm

Roody, that was beautiful. Thank you.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by ChainGangGuy » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:27 pm

Apartment F209. A tidy IF romp that got you in and out and on with your day.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Roody_Yogurt » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:21 pm

If we're limited to one answer, mine would have to be Lurking Horror. One of the first two legitimately-obtained Infocom games I ever owned, I played it at a time where it was still a bit above my reading comprehension level. Without any knowledge of what "Lovecraftian" even meant, every new creature or eerie element introduced in the game really blew my mind, so it had the most "whoa" moments.

If we're free to spew as many games as we want, Ballyhoo, the other of the first legitimate games would also be up there. Funny how one has you perpetually in a freezing winter night and the other is a nice August night, and I spent so much time in each. As someone who has put so many hours into Ballyhoo, I know how to milk it for all its worth- like knowing which NPCs actually give useful responses about other characters- and without that knowledge, I can easily imagine how it hasn't aged well for the average person. Those bits of info can be very hard to find. That's part of the reason I covered Ballyhoo in my "Old-School Transcripts" project.

Later on (but before LToI), I legitimately owned Witness, and I have to agree with pinback that it is great. For me, more than any other Infocom game, it just oozed coolness and really nailed Classic Hollywood noir.

After I got "Lost Treasures of Infocom," of course, Planetfall had its big emotional moment, which still stands tall among of IF's big emotional moments, even if I can't argue with those who call it contrived and manipulative.

Wishbringer blew me away with just how well-designed it was, fairly moderate difficulty level with two solutions to every major puzzle. Its plot and set pieces aren't anything special, but it was the first game where the design alone really wowed me.

And when I got "Masterpieces of Infocom", playing A Change in the Weather and realizing that there was an online community writing IFjust like Infocom was a life-changing experience.

Lastly, when I finally got around to beating Necrotic Drift, years after its release, and I saw that the character that had me as its avatar gave a little speech using words I had written on this very forum (all to a very cool song by pinback, btw), it was just a really cool moment for me. I was going through a bit of a dark patch in life at the time and it really picked me up.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Jizaboz » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:12 pm

Oh! And another one just came to mind.

The "modern" CYPHER - Cyberpunk Text Adventure really stuck out to me. It got horrible reviews due to a terrible text parser, bad spelling/English (it wasn't their first language), and the way some of the characters are portrayed. I actually really enjoyed the unique concepts and general theme and feel of the game! It had cool sound and visual effects. I even finished the broken mess.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Jizaboz » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:09 pm

AArdvark wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:58 pm Writing code that can do real world stuff can be more fun than playing computer games sometimes
Right! I had more fun creating a couple of text adventures than I did playing a lot of them haha

Also, back when the newest IdSoft game was what I was into, I'd spend more time in the damn map editor and SDK than actually playing the damn game in most cases.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by AArdvark » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:58 pm

I...actually knew it was a compiler. There was a RetroBits podcast about it.

Writing code that can do real world stuff can be more fun than playing computer games sometimes

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Tdarcos » Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:53 pm

AArdvark wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:49 pm Is Turbo Pascal a text adventure?
Tubo Pascal is a compiler. My point was to try and get you guys to think differently. While playing interactive fiction can be some fun, nothing compares to the satisfaction of having worked for hours solving your problems, and then you get it right, and you look up and you've spent 12 hours straight and never even noticed.

I never had as much fun playing a game as I did writing code. Which is an adventure in text.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by RealNC » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:44 am

Even though it's not my favorite text game (it's one of those "7/10" games,) "Hexuma" is the first text game I was able to play. The famous text games everyone knows about were all in English. I didn't speak English yet back then.

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Hexuma is a German text game, and since that's my other native language, a pirated copy of it ended up on my MS-DOS PC soon after I saw the box in a computer store. The cover art and screenshots looked very enticing. There's some really great VGA pixel art in this game, which runs at 320x200 with 256 colors.

The learning curve wasn't as steep as one would imagine, since the game also supports mouse input in a way that's quite similar to a point&click game. Hovering over game objects immediately shows the object's name under the mouse cursor without having to click first. There's also a "first aid" function that when clicked shows a CYOA-style menu where you can choose between several actions to perform. However, using the parser is much faster, and is actually required for making progress, and once I got the hang of it, I was using it exclusively.

Some of the puzzles were brutal. Mostly because of their "guess what's in the author's mind" nature. They kind of make sense after the fact, but not while trying to solve them. Somehow I progressed through the game through a shitload of trial and error. It must have took me over a month to reach the end of the game. And then disaster struck. At the very last section, there is a copy protection question. Fuck. My pirated copy didn't include anything. No text file with copy protection answers, no crack, no nothing. I was pissed beyond belief. And I wasn't going to buy the game at full price. In 2022 money, it was like 100 dollars. That's way too much for a 13 year old.

I had to wait about 4 years for the game to pop up in one of those "classic games" releases that go for 10 bucks and was finally able to finish the game.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:58 am

"Circle Loopy Stinky Stinker"?

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by pinback » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:39 am

Well, words have different meanings.

But let's get back on topic, I was just being a lil' stinker!

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:08 pm

pinback wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:33 pm The Witness is my favorite game of all time.
So now that you have played the other Witness, could it have been called anything else other than the name of a previous game?

"Circle Loopy Game" wouldn't have worked, you're saying?

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by pinback » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:33 pm

The Witness is my favorite game of all time.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by bryanb » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:06 pm

AArdvark wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:49 pm Is Turbo Pascal a text adventure?
I thought it really delved deeply into Blaise Pascal's secret life as a competitive sprinter, but having to use the run command 7,539 times in a row was serious overkill.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by bryanb » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:02 pm

Zork and Deadline stand out foremost in my mind. Zork still feels BIG to me. There are definitely games with more rooms and more text to read, but Zork always gives me that feeling that there's going to be more to explore and it will be interesting and unexpected. It also recognizes one of the fundamental facts of human nature: if a game puts you in front of a white house, you're going to want to find out what's in it. The starting room to me is one of the most iconic moments in the history of video games. What's the deal with this house, anyway? Why is it boarded up? While I'm here, shouldn't I at least steal some fucking mail? Deadline is another game that feels big, but it puts the focus on its rich cast of characters who all have lives of their own and distinct personalities. Your mission is to find out whodunnit, but finding out just who these people are is the most enjoyable aspect of the journey. You have to talk to people, observe them as they go about their daily lives, and sort through the lies and half-truths. I also really like the aspect of being a detective who does detectivey things like take fingerprints. The basic work of being a detective isn't all done for you automatically and your competence isn't assumed. You have to do your damn job.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by AArdvark » Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:49 pm

Is Turbo Pascal a text adventure?

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:10 pm

pinback wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:58 pm
Tdarcos wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:13 pm I don't know what you mean by 'text adventure'
Yes you do. Don't be "clever".
Tdarcos? TDARCOS? You absolutely know what we are talking about. By hanging out here you became an expert on Rochester food and text adventures.

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by pinback » Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:58 pm

Tdarcos wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:13 pm I don't know what you mean by 'text adventure'
Yes you do. Don't be "clever".

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Tdarcos » Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:13 pm

I don't know what you mean by 'text adventure' but if you mean something where I had fun manipulating text and solving puzzles, it was Turbo Pascal, version 3. Using it to do things was the most fun I had, and it's too bad there was no money in writing programs for it, because there is no way someone can tell me that's working, I was having way too much fun for it to be work.

Then, like way too many software companies, the sequels bloated up the program and made it harder to play with.

Now if you want to argue you mean 'Interactive fiction' then it's Dungeon, a clone of Zork for which the source was available and you could see what it did and how it did it. And the puzzles were entertaining, although they can be frustrating (like how you sneak into the vault of the Bank of Zork (or whatever it was called in Dungeon).

Then again, having really difficult puzzles that frustrate you are not supposed to be in a game you play for fun. Being frustrated by the puzzles you have to solve is the stuff I'm supposed to be paid to do as a programmer... But that's another story...

Re: What text game gave you the most treasured memories?

by Flack » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:37 am

I found it. Sherlock Holmes in "Another Bow"

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Link: https://www.mobygames.com/game/pc-boote ... nother-bow

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