3.14 it's PI day!

by **RealNC** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:09 am

Tdarcos wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:23 pm Really? Have you checked the sizes used by American soft drink bottlers for large soft drink bottles? 2 and 3 liter. Funny, but I thought the liter was an international unit of measurement. Oh wait, it is.

It's "litre."

by **Tdarcos** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:23 pm

pinback wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:29 pm This is AMERICA, god dammit. We don't do "international" anything.

Really? Have you checked the sizes used by American soft drink bottlers for large soft drink bottles? 2 and 3 liter. Funny, but I thought the liter was an international unit of measurement. Oh wait, it is.

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:50 pm

pinback wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:40 pm
RealNC wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:14 pm
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:17 am 2/23/03 - what date is that?
There is no such date format.
...what?

Again. Right. What?

by **AArdvark** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:53 pm

14MAR23

Not pi day

by **pinback** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:29 pm

This is AMERICA, god dammit. We don't do "international" anything.

by **RealNC** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:08 pm

pinback wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:40 pm
RealNC wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:14 pm
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:17 am 2/23/03 - what date is that?
There is no such date format.
...what?

"That is not international date format." :P Brain fart.

by **pinback** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:40 pm

RealNC wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:14 pm
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:17 am 2/23/03 - what date is that?
There is no such date format.

...what?

by **RealNC** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:14 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:17 am
Well, if the year comes first, there can't be any confusion whatsoever.
Okay, I think you guys are trolling me.

2023/02/03 - what date is that? March 2nd? February 3rd? You get no other context but the numbers. Which is the problem.

Since the year comes first, you know for sure it's international date format, so it can't be anything else than year-month-day. There is no other date format where the year comes first. And you written it wrong. It uses hyphens, not slashes :P

2/23/03 - what date is that?

There is no such date format. International format always has the year written in full, never abbreviated. So until the apocalypse happens and we start counting from 1 again, there won't be a problem.

Look, it's simple. If you want to post your "3/14" American date in a format that is unambiguous, just stick the goddamn year in front of it and replace slashes with hyphens. That's all there is to it. How difficult can it be?

by **Mama Blue** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:16 am

Why does it say that you posted on Thursday the 16th when you are posting on Wednesday the 15th?

by **Jizaboz** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:32 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:17 am Ha ha! Good one guys! Ya got me!

Soon this conversation shall devolve into a fight about the metric system in Reptile's pit Mortal Kombat style.

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:38 am

Tdarcos wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:32 am
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:36 pm
Tdarcos wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:26 pm That's why I would use 2023-03-14 (Japanese form) as there is no discussion: that mode runs from least frequent to most, so the middle number is always the month.

When using "slash dates" it can be confusing, is 3/4/23 March 4 (US) or April 3 (Europe).
....... you get that in "Japanese form" 2023-03-04 is not intrinsically clear, right? That you would have to tell people that it's in a Japanese format?

And that if you TELL people that 3/4/23 is an American-style date that there is no more or less confusion than if you TELL people that 2023-03-04 is "Japanese style".

I don't think you understand that.
I do understand. WE DON'T NORMALLY TELL PEOPLE, DUMMY! I was explaining for expositional purposes. When I'd write a date on a check, I would just use the / form and make no comment. Which is how 99.9995% of all slash dates are written.

Also, I have never seen the "year first" form done any other way, primarily because the main reason for doing it that way is because if it's on a computer that way it allows for easy sort by date when dates are in text rather than binary. It is because it is always consistent is why it is used.

Hey dumbfuck, you said the Japanese way is clearer, which it isn't, and now you just agreed that people don't state the format.

So how is it clearer? HOW, PAUL?

by **Tdarcos** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:32 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:36 pm
Tdarcos wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:26 pm That's why I would use 2023-03-14 (Japanese form) as there is no discussion: that mode runs from least frequent to most, so the middle number is always the month.

When using "slash dates" it can be confusing, is 3/4/23 March 4 (US) or April 3 (Europe).
....... you get that in "Japanese form" 2023-03-04 is not intrinsically clear, right? That you would have to tell people that it's in a Japanese format?

And that if you TELL people that 3/4/23 is an American-style date that there is no more or less confusion than if you TELL people that 2023-03-04 is "Japanese style".

I don't think you understand that.

I do understand. WE DON'T NORMALLY TELL PEOPLE, DUMMY! I was explaining for expositional purposes. When I'd write a date on a check, I would just use the / form and make no comment. Which is how 99.9995% of all slash dates are written.

Also, I have never seen the "year first" form done any other way, primarily because the main reason for doing it that way is because if it's on a computer that way it allows for easy sort by date when dates are in text rather than binary. It is because it is always consistent is why it is used.

by **Flack** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:16 am

Haven't had one this dumb since 11/12/10. Er, 10/12/11.

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:17 am

Well, if the year comes first, there can't be any confusion whatsoever.

Okay, I think you guys are trolling me.

2023/02/03 - what date is that? March 2nd? February 3rd? You get no other context but the numbers. Which is the problem.

2/23/03 - what date is that? February 23rd, 2003? You sure about that? You sure? You real sure about that? You sure? Sure about that? You are? You sure? Sure about that?

This is the dumbest conversation in the history of this BBS. The entire stupid stereotype/meme that Tdarcos retrieved from his brain because he badly read it online years ago is literally because no date format makes sense unless you tell people what the date format is, and he doesn't understand what he's talking about and now I think none of you except Pinback do either.

Ha ha! Good one guys! Ya got me!

by **RealNC** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:06 am

Well, if the year comes first, there can't be any confusion whatsoever. Obviously you have to know what it is first. People already know the American and European formats, this is just "that other one that actually works for everyone."

I'm not sure how Japanese that format is, but I know it as the ISO international date format, and I've been using it for a long time now for release dates and for parsing dates from external sources since it's unambiguous regardless of the machine's current locale setting.

So, since yesterday was 2023-3-14, happy pi day!

by **pinback** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:40 am

I think his point was, no matter what style it was, there's no way to tell what it is unless you state what style it is.

by **Jizaboz** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:29 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:36 pm ....... you get that in "Japanese form" 2023-03-04 is not intrinsically clear, right? That you would have to tell people that it's in a Japanese format?

In Paul's defense.. perhaps everyone here but me (and maybe Worm if he was still around), Jonsey-chan. In the Japanese language you always state the main thing first, then elaborate. Ie; you don't say "I am going to the store for soy sauce." You basically say "The store. I go to it now." and then if someone asks why you say "soy sauce". Just like when someone asks you when you were born. The year is the most important and perhaps only relevant information.

However, in your defense.. does this make a hell of a lot of sense? Does reading a comic book backwards make much sense? None of this shit does unless you closely follow Japanese culture. Although I've been into it since a very young age, I still get confused.

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:36 pm

Tdarcos wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:26 pm That's why I would use 2023-03-14 (Japanese form) as there is no discussion: that mode runs from least frequent to most, so the middle number is always the month.

When using "slash dates" it can be confusing, is 3/4/23 March 4 (US) or April 3 (Europe).

....... you get that in "Japanese form" 2023-03-04 is not intrinsically clear, right? That you would have to tell people that it's in a Japanese format?

And that if you TELL people that 3/4/23 is an American-style date that there is no more or less confusion than if you TELL people that 2023-03-04 is "Japanese style".

I don't think you understand that.

by **Tdarcos** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:26 pm

That's why I would use 2023-03-14 (Japanese form) as there is no discussion: that mode runs from least frequent to most, so the middle number is always the month.

When using "slash dates" it can be confusing, is 3/4/23 March 4 (US) or April 3 (Europe). RealNC is in Greece, so he reads the date in European form. Technically, European form is more consistent as it's the reverse of the Japanese "yeat first" format: most frequent to least frequent; day/month/year.

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:34 pm

RealNC wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:25 am There is no 14th month, so it can't be pi day.

I am leaving nationalism out of this. They should have made all the months correspond to letters starting with A so there would be no confusion when written in different formats.

I've talked a lot of shit recently about other countries and I really need yours on our side at the moment.

3.14 it's PI day!

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