pinback wrote:What?

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I know this, you know this, Worm does not know this. Some old regular piped up with his take on the current state of Caltrops after a long time off and put in a line like, "Worm is always a good read." Worm didn't even remotely pick up on the irony, instead he was beaming. BEAMING.

pinback wrote:Again, it's the arrogance that gets me. "How DARE they look at my PERSONAL FILES!" Nobody cares about your personal files. You're a cog in the machine, as replaceable as piston rods, or whatever he said.

They don't care about you. They just want your money. Don't take it so fucking personally.

pinback wrote:In fact, all I have to tell you to really drive the point home is, it sounds like something Finsternis would say. He only uses encrypted chat programs, because THEY MIGHT BE OUT THERE!!!

You and Finsternis. Proverbial peas in a paranoid pod.

pinback wrote:I believe me when I say this.

pinback wrote:ICJ is being outgunned by a punk kid. If this isn't best of, might as well delete best of base.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

ICJ wrote:]No good. People have been deciding on whether or not to make a sequel for their game for many, many years. And somehow they've managed to do it without access to this information. Somehow they've managed to do it without compromising privacy.

Sorry, but that reason isn't any good.

Well, they did it with a person giving up their own privacy via registrations.

[ ] HOW MANY CONSOLES DO YOU OWN?
[ ] HOW MANY HOURS A DAY DO YOU PLAY VIDEO GAMES

Except this is better.

Then you're a fucking idiot. This is better? It's BETTER for you -- the person who is shelling out money for this piece of shit -- to not simply click or not click on a bunch of insipid questions like "DO YOU HAVE AN XBOX?!?" in order to get the download link but rather let any old piece of software run at any time on your computer and be completely at the whims of a company whose primary goal is in spreading their Spyware.

Okay, Worm.

If you think that the gathering of statistical data without your premission is privacy invasion, why don't you open up your eyes?

If you think it's perfectly acceptable for anyone to access your computer for whatever reason they want why do you have Spybot and Norton Anti-Virus on your computer?

I'm the one who is internally consistent, you're the dipshit hillbilly child who is trying to outcool privacy concerns. You're the exact same kid who goes to high school as a junior with an overcontrasted Karl Max t-shirt.

It has nothing to do with the fact that communism has proven to be a worthless system of government that ensures a meaningless, stale and hopeless existence unless you're a politician or Olympic-level athlete and everything to do with the fact that wearing that shirt makes you DIFFERENT.

Being against computer privacy makes you DIFFERENT. You haven't stopped for a moment to think if it makes you come off as childish and rippingly moronic as someone supporting a punchline of a government, of course, because if you did you'd realize how stupid you look.

Statistics are taken from how many times you visit the store, to what kind of clothes you buy, and probably to how you like your steak done (medium well was it?).

And this makes perfect sense because I own the book store, I own the clothes store and I own the steakhouse -- just like I own my computer! These are all MY things and therefore your strained analogy is anything but.

Now you can say "Well, in those cases, I'm not specified"

But not having recently undergone a frontal lobotomy I'm unlikely to say that -- let me really get some numbers down, though. I'll throw out one that I think fits. I'd have to lose 35% of the total mass of my brain to be as stupid as you are, currently, in this thread. I'm not sure which parts needs to go... I'm not a doctor or anything... but while it may turn out that I could come up with your arguments with less than 35% removed, there's no question that my stupidity would be ensured with thirty-five percent gone.

In fact you could take a third of my brain -- the amount which is currently dedicated to worrying about the snakes getting out -- and hook it up to a mouse and keyboard and even then it on its own would not be so simple to let anything have access to its PC at any time. On a CELLULAR LEVEL my person is brighter than you as a whole, because if a (real) virus tries to hijack a cell of mine it tries to FUCKING FIGHT BACK. While your comments in this thread are ape-like and subhuman I would still predict that even your body fights off viruses as best it can. So in spite of yourself, in spite of the innate behavior your own body exhibits... you're saying you have no problem with your PC becoming a zombie machine.

gg.

It's a faceless statistic to evaluate the reasons the company has for creating a sequel to this game.

This has nothing to do with it being faceless. I don't know why you don't get that. Hey, it's great that they have given your word that -- this time! -- they are "behaving." To be completely honest I wish I lived in your universe where the leopard really can change its stripes.

The software doesn't slowdown your computer, sends out the data in unused bandwith, and is very simply to circumvent if you so wish.

Well, I don't. I'm not going to go warez some poor slob's game

even if I think the company he aligned himself with his completely base.

This is where the world is heading, statistical data is used widely and without your premission

Well, I'm not the one with a bunch of wt*.exe apps on his PC, so no, on my network the world is damn well not headed that way. Someone could release Zork 4 or Duke Forever or whatever other me-centric killer app you can think of and if they bundled it with invasive software I'd decline. Show some fucking backbone, you despicable protazoa.

And not playing Fate makes you no less violated by the threat you were UNAWARE OF until a motherfucking video game used it.

Not playing Fate makes me no less violated to WT. Okay, Worm.

And don't tell me it's not having an effect. Through no work of my own Google has already placed this thread on the first page of a "wildtangent" "spyware" "fate" search. The developer of this game is obviously talented enough to have no need to saddle his cart to the pieces of crap he -- I presume -- had to for his first release. I'd hope that going forward he'd be able to make subsequent games that had no invasive content, no slimy add-on components and no vile marketing code like say... I don't know... Valve.

(Shit, wait.)

ICJ wrote:]No good. People have been deciding on whether or not to make a sequel for their game for many, many years. And somehow they've managed to do it without access to this information. Somehow they've managed to do it without compromising privacy.

Sorry, but that reason isn't any good.

Well, they did it with a person giving up their own privacy via registrations.

[ ] HOW MANY CONSOLES DO YOU OWN?
[ ] HOW MANY HOURS A DAY DO YOU PLAY VIDEO GAMES

Except this is better.

If you think that the gathering of statistical data without your premission is privacy invasion, why don't you open up your eyes?

Statistics are taken from how many times you visit the store, to what kind of clothes you buy, and probably to how you like your steak done (medium well was it?).

Now you can say "Well, in those cases, I'm not specified"

It's a faceless statistic to evaluate the reasons the company has for creating a sequel to this game.

The software doesn't slowdown your computer, sends out the data in unused bandwith, and is very simply to circumvent if you so wish.

This is where the world is heading, statistical data is used widely and without your premission

And not playing Fate makes you no less violated by the threat you were UNAWARE OF until a motherfucking video game used it.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

Worm wrote:I think you're just over doing this becaues it's involved with 'gaming and computers' which is some hallowed ground in your mind that you don't want tippy-toed through as the rest of the world is trampled.

I've let this thread die at least three times. How am I overdoing it?

Economics, what, are you some kind of fucking retard? It's for them to evaluate the reasons behind a sequel. It's obvioulsy not moving 10,000 units. If it has 100 people who've played it over 200 hours, it's probably worth a sequel.

No good. People have been deciding on whether or not to make a sequel for their game for many, many years. And somehow they've managed to do it without access to this information. Somehow they've managed to do it without compromising privacy.

Sorry, but that reason isn't any good.

Worm wrote:I think you're just over doing this becaues it's involved with 'gaming and computers' which is some hallowed ground in your mind that you don't want tippy-toed through as the rest of the world is trampled.

Economics, what, are you some kind of fucking retard? It's for them to evaluate the reasons behind a sequel. It's obvioulsy not moving 10,000 units. If it has 100 people who've played it over 200 hours, it's probably worth a sequel.