by Ice Cream Jonsey » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:50 pm
Roody_Yogurt wrote:Has anyone had both Gamecube and Playstation 2 experience, and beyond that, have they compared ports? There are some games only available on those two, and I'd like to hear how the Gamecube compares when it comes to graphics, controllers, and loading times.
Haven't played a second's worth of anything on the Gamecube. I guess if I am biased against anyone, it's Nintendo. I think I have told my own personal horror story of the N64 launch a million times, so I won't make it a million plus one for the sake of eliminating tedium, but one thing that I really don't get as of late is the outright worshipping of their brands by so many console fans.
A lot of times I'll have already seen a game similar to one of Nintendo's and therefore the Nintendo one doesn't impress me. For instance, the first time that I played the Legend of Zelda, I had already played Gauntlet at the arcade, and already played Ultima III on the PC. I don't remember what the release dates were, and I'm pretty sure that Zelda was right there with those games, if not released significantly ahead of them, but since Zelda was coming up late in my personal chronology, it made it real tough to compare it against those other games. While I liked Super Mario Bros. just like every other kid my age, I have never been big on figuring out "secrets" or anything, so the two sequels to that never really did much for me. Well, that and the fact that I ended up digging Sonic more. Excitebike is a game I'd put in my personal top thirty, but that was only updated once and it was for a system that was hocking cartridges long past the time that I was interested in buying carts.
Politically, there is just one reason to dislike them that arises straight after another. It kills me that for so long Yamauchi got by while pulling his little "pissed off emperor" routine. If you read any story on Nintendo's history there can't help but be one tale that goes on about how the frigging codger was pissed at some third party software company and how he storms into a meeting, shouts at them in Japanese, tells them how he's going to have his ninja army kill every single relative of theirs, and how Nintendo the company is going to piss on their graves before storming out. What a crock of shit. I mean, I buy the fact that shit like that happened, but comport yourself like a fucking adult, old man. He didn't have a shred of respect for any of the third party developers who wrote the really innovative and memorable games for his systems and that's just plain despicable. What a way to drive them to Sony and Microsoft in droves. Stuff like really gets me upset from a personal standpoint, as I can appreciate what it takes to make, test and release a game, feel that it's ridiculous for console hardware manufacturers to grab the percentages that they do (even though I understand, intellectually, why they need to get
some part of it) and think that the enormous risks that they had to take in the cartridge era were utterly indefensible by Nintendo. But hey, what did he care so long as the kiddies were gobbling up the new Donkey Kong Country game. I have no idea if the guy who took over is anything like that at all, but I don't exactly see tons of devs looking to sign exclusive deals with Nintendo, so who knows. The only thing that could get me to buy a Gamecube at this point would be (and it's really painful for me to say this) is if that Transformers game that I linked to here on JC a while back was exclusive. (I should preface it by saying that if they are using that crappy new "Transformers Armada" license then all bets are off -- giant robots are still cool, giant robots who have fucking Pokemon in them are certainly not and never will be.)
(Then against, hey, at least Yamauchi gave some props to his resident genius, unlike the fuckers at Namco who gave their boy who designed Pac-Man nothing other than a $35,000 bonus. Eh, takes all kinds.)
[quote="Roody_Yogurt"]Has anyone had both Gamecube and Playstation 2 experience, and beyond that, have they compared ports? There are some games only available on those two, and I'd like to hear how the Gamecube compares when it comes to graphics, controllers, and loading times.[/quote]
Haven't played a second's worth of anything on the Gamecube. I guess if I am biased against anyone, it's Nintendo. I think I have told my own personal horror story of the N64 launch a million times, so I won't make it a million plus one for the sake of eliminating tedium, but one thing that I really don't get as of late is the outright worshipping of their brands by so many console fans.
A lot of times I'll have already seen a game similar to one of Nintendo's and therefore the Nintendo one doesn't impress me. For instance, the first time that I played the Legend of Zelda, I had already played Gauntlet at the arcade, and already played Ultima III on the PC. I don't remember what the release dates were, and I'm pretty sure that Zelda was right there with those games, if not released significantly ahead of them, but since Zelda was coming up late in my personal chronology, it made it real tough to compare it against those other games. While I liked Super Mario Bros. just like every other kid my age, I have never been big on figuring out "secrets" or anything, so the two sequels to that never really did much for me. Well, that and the fact that I ended up digging Sonic more. Excitebike is a game I'd put in my personal top thirty, but that was only updated once and it was for a system that was hocking cartridges long past the time that I was interested in buying carts.
Politically, there is just one reason to dislike them that arises straight after another. It kills me that for so long Yamauchi got by while pulling his little "pissed off emperor" routine. If you read any story on Nintendo's history there can't help but be one tale that goes on about how the frigging codger was pissed at some third party software company and how he storms into a meeting, shouts at them in Japanese, tells them how he's going to have his ninja army kill every single relative of theirs, and how Nintendo the company is going to piss on their graves before storming out. What a crock of shit. I mean, I buy the fact that shit like that happened, but comport yourself like a fucking adult, old man. He didn't have a shred of respect for any of the third party developers who wrote the really innovative and memorable games for his systems and that's just plain despicable. What a way to drive them to Sony and Microsoft in droves. Stuff like really gets me upset from a personal standpoint, as I can appreciate what it takes to make, test and release a game, feel that it's ridiculous for console hardware manufacturers to grab the percentages that they do (even though I understand, intellectually, why they need to get [i]some[/i] part of it) and think that the enormous risks that they had to take in the cartridge era were utterly indefensible by Nintendo. But hey, what did he care so long as the kiddies were gobbling up the new Donkey Kong Country game. I have no idea if the guy who took over is anything like that at all, but I don't exactly see tons of devs looking to sign exclusive deals with Nintendo, so who knows. The only thing that could get me to buy a Gamecube at this point would be (and it's really painful for me to say this) is if that Transformers game that I linked to here on JC a while back was exclusive. (I should preface it by saying that if they are using that crappy new "Transformers Armada" license then all bets are off -- giant robots are still cool, giant robots who have fucking Pokemon in them are certainly not and never will be.)
(Then against, hey, at least Yamauchi gave some props to his resident genius, unlike the fuckers at Namco who gave their boy who designed Pac-Man nothing other than a $35,000 bonus. Eh, takes all kinds.)