Tdarcos wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:47 am

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am No, I know my rights but this is the only place I can afford.

Okay, we'll leave the issue for now since yo're afraid that reporting your current place, and you'll wait until you leave to do something.

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am Don't tell me what is going to happen... the last place I was in... I called the state on them twice... they kicked me out for no reason and I literally end up in hell.

Okay, now you're no longer there. Have you gotten an appointment with a lawyer that handles landlord/tenant law or nursing home issues? They will see you for an initial consultation at no charge and if you've been evicted from a place right after reporting them, that's clearly a retaliatory eviction. A former tenant was forced out right after reporting them? Practically open and shut for big monetary damages. Juries don't like nursing homes and seeing one retaliate? They aren't going to like what the plaintiff gets awarded.

But let me guess, now you're afrad of challenging your former place because this one might retaliate. So much for doing something once you're not at a place.

Now if I'm wrong and you have gotten a consult with an attorney about the misconduct of your prior residence, then I apologize.

I have half a mind to do something about it, like calling the Rochester health department or some media outlets myself and complain a friend of mine is staying in a Rochester nursing home infested with bedbugs, mice, roaches and rats, and is so afraid of retaliation they're afraid to report them. Suggesting to the health department that an unannounced quick check of a few minutes at each nursing home in the city should show which are allowing resident's fear of retaliatory evictions they are scared of being homeless if they say anything. If it's as blatant as you say it should be obvious.

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am The next place from here if you have nowhere else to go isn't another home because there is nothing else at my budget, it's a homeless shelter, which I really don't want to he in with my health issues... but thanks for your concern.

Don't you qualify for Medicaid? I have both and they cover most of the cost of being here. But suffering in filth is both preventable and inexcusable. Even if they can't afford an exterminator, boric acid and rat and mouse baits are cheap, along with better cleaning of linens and sanitizing mattresses will go a long way.

Nobody expects perfection; any commercial installation with a kitchen will eventually get roaches, but they can be prevented from spreading. We have housekeeping and the place is clean. Here, over the last year, in our room, we've seen about 4. Not all at once, either; we\ll find one about every three or four months. It's the response to the problem that is the difference between a normal place and one feeding on neglect.

Tdarcos wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:47 am

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am No, I know my rights but this is the only place I can afford.

Okay, we'll leave the issue for now since yo're afraid that reporting your current place, and you'll wait until you leave to do something.

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am Don't tell me what is going to happen... the last place I was in... I called the state on them twice... they kicked me out for no reason and I literally end up in hell.

Okay, now you're no longer there. Have you gotten an appointment with a lawyer that handles landlord/tenant law or nursing home issues? They will see you for an initial consultation at no charge and if you've been evicted from a place right after reporting them, that's clearly a retaliatory eviction. A former tenant was forced out right after reporting them? Practically open and shut for big monetary damages. Juries don't like nursing homes and seeing one retaliate? They aren't going to like what the plaintiff gets awarded.

But let me guess, now you're afrad of challenging your former place because this one might retaliate. So much for doing something once you're not at a place.

Now if I'm wrong and you have gotten a consult with an attorney about the misconduct of your prior residence, then I apologize.

I have half a mind to do something about it, like calling the Rochester health department or some media outlets myself and complain a friend of mine is staying in a Rochester nursing home infested with bedbugs, mice, roaches and rats, and is so afraid of retaliation they're afraid to report them. Suggesting to the health department that an unannounced quick check of a few minutes at each nursing home in the city should show which are allowing resident's fear of retaliatory evictions they are scared of being homeless if they say anything. If it's as blatant as you say it should be obvious.

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am The next place from here if you have nowhere else to go isn't another home because there is nothing else at my budget, it's a homeless shelter, which I really don't want to he in with my health issues... but thanks for your concern.

Don't you qualify for Medicaid? I have both and they cover most of the cost of being here. But suffering in filth is both preventable and inexcusable. Even if they can't afford an exterminator, boric acid and rat and mouse baits are cheap, along with better cleaning of linens and sanitizing mattresses will go a long way.

Nobody expects perfection; any commercial installation with a kitchen will eventually get roaches, but they can be prevented from spreading. We have housekeeping and the place is clean. Here, over the last year, in our room, we've seen about 4. Not all at once, either; we\ll find one about every three or four months. It's the response to the problem that is the difference between a normal place and one feeding on neglect.

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am No, I know my rights but this is the only place I can afford.

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am Don't tell me what is going to happen... the last place I was in... I called the state on them twice... they kicked me out for no reason and I literally end up in hell.

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:28 am The next place from here if you have nowhere else to go isn't another home because there is nothing else at my budget, it's a homeless shelter, which I really don't want to he in with my health issues... but thanks for your concern.

Tdarcos wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:54 am

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:56 pm

Tdarcos wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:56 pm I quote from your plea for help.



1. You have a cell phone. Take pictures. Nothing beats evidence over the possibility of quick fixes to cover up problems.
2. If you can send mail without the employees seeing it, tell places about it. (Since you're scared, you don't want to send mail from your facility's outgoing mail) . If you need postage stamps I can send you some. Snail mail, separate e-mail not tied to you, anonymous phone calls. Your local food service licensing agency (if different from), the board of health, County Adult Protective Services. State health department. State Nursing home license board. Your local newspaper. Nearby ones if available. Major bationally recognized investigative journalism papers like The Washington Post .Any rnews adio stations within 30 miles as well as any others that do their own news. Every television station within 50 miles.
3. Post reports (under a throwaway or separate account) for all social media.
4, Do Tik-Tok and YouTube videos showing the conditions.
5. See if there is a lawyer handling disability issues. If you have to file an ADA case, and you win, they have to pay your lawyer.
6. Post this to every place that accepts ratings like Yelp or similar places.
7. Google search for "nursimg home advocates Rochester" or a nearby town.
8. Look for groups doing videos on this issue and see if you can contact them

You have to advocate for yourself, don't let "leatned helplessness" seep in, no one else will fight for you as hard as you can.

No "learned helplessness " here.
We are saving every penny, not even buying groceries.
I am not going to war with my nurshome until I've moved out. I don't want to be thrown out, away from my boyfriend and friends, until I have the money to move. Thanks though.

That is inlikely to happen. First, once you have lived in a place for 30 days, you are a "tenant" of your facility, and the law gives you certain rights; they can't just throw you out on the street, they have to sue you and get an eviction, which if they did after you filed a complaint with a public agency, is a "retaliatory eviction," which means if they did try to evict you, a court would tell them that's illegal.

Further, if your nursing home is receiving medicare payments - almost a certainty - there are federal protections in effect in addition to local and state sanctions.

A nursing home might do any number of shady things, but they're not going to do something that would put them on the receiving end of a six- or seven-figure judgment for damages.

All of the things that you are complaining about, mice, rats, roaches, bedbugs, etc., are there because, in effect, you choose to allow them to continue. If you're seeing these, I'm sure you're not the only one. You do not have to identify yourself. Your fear of retaliation is the fuel that powers their neglect.

You can report these things anonymously. A letter or e-mail with no return address saying that Erewhon Nursing Home is infested with rats, mice, and roaches, especially in the kitchen, and mailed to the health department should help. Sending these to the TV and newspaper will also help get a response. If you don't put some light on the darkness, nobody sees what's there and things go on as usual.

Waiting until you can "afford" to leave is a pipe dream. It could take months, or longer. Bedbugs are a serious danger and could cause infections and make things worse.

I know that you're frightened. But unless you shine some light on the dark underbelly of neglect it will never improve. This is what I mean by "learned helplessness," you think there's nothing you can do. And as far as I see it, fear of retaliation is barely a hairs breadth fron the Stockholm Syndrome.

Not-so-casual Observer wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:56 pm

Tdarcos wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:56 pm I quote from your plea for help.

I live in a nursing home in the Rochester area. It has been nothing but horrific to me. The neglect.... showers every few months, being forced to take my insulin then the aides ignoring my requests for food when I have a doctor's note to eat in my room, and suffering low blood sugar because of that! Being screamed at, called a "f-ing retard" because I'm in a wheelchair. Being sexually assaulted by a male staff member when my wheelchair was restrained on the bus and I could not move away! There are tons of mice everywhere, especially in the kitchen. My boyfriend had mice footprints on his lunch yesterday, and his bed is soaked through from someone else's piss, so he had to flip it over! There are bedbugs, roaches, and I've even seen a big ol rat! Our income here only allows the two of us $200 per month each for allowances. How will we ever get out of here? We need your help! We are going to need help with 1st months rent, sec deposit, bed, couch etc... we literally have nothing.

1. You have a cell phone. Take pictures. Nothing beats evidence over the possibility of quick fixes to cover up problems.
2. If you can send mail without the employees seeing it, tell places about it. (Since you're scared, you don't want to send mail from your facility's outgoing mail) . If you need postage stamps I can send you some. Snail mail, separate e-mail not tied to you, anonymous phone calls. Your local food service licensing agency (if different from), the board of health, County Adult Protective Services. State health department. State Nursing home license board. Your local newspaper. Nearby ones if available. Major bationally recognized investigative journalism papers like The Washington Post .Any rnews adio stations within 30 miles as well as any others that do their own news. Every television station within 50 miles.
3. Post reports (under a throwaway or separate account) for all social media.
4, Do Tik-Tok and YouTube videos showing the conditions.
5. See if there is a lawyer handling disability issues. If you have to file an ADA case, and you win, they have to pay your lawyer.
6. Post this to every place that accepts ratings like Yelp or similar places.
7. Google search for "nursimg home advocates Rochester" or a nearby town.
8. Look for groups doing videos on this issue and see if you can contact them

You have to advocate for yourself, don't let "leatned helplessness" seep in, no one else will fight for you as hard as you can.

No "learned helplessness " here.
We are saving every penny, not even buying groceries.
I am not going to war with my nurshome until I've moved out. I don't want to be thrown out, away from my boyfriend and friends, until I have the money to move. Thanks though.

Tdarcos wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:56 pm I quote from your plea for help.

I live in a nursing home in the Rochester area. It has been nothing but horrific to me. The neglect.... showers every few months, being forced to take my insulin then the aides ignoring my requests for food when I have a doctor's note to eat in my room, and suffering low blood sugar because of that! Being screamed at, called a "f-ing retard" because I'm in a wheelchair. Being sexually assaulted by a male staff member when my wheelchair was restrained on the bus and I could not move away! There are tons of mice everywhere, especially in the kitchen. My boyfriend had mice footprints on his lunch yesterday, and his bed is soaked through from someone else's piss, so he had to flip it over! There are bedbugs, roaches, and I've even seen a big ol rat! Our income here only allows the two of us $200 per month each for allowances. How will we ever get out of here? We need your help! We are going to need help with 1st months rent, sec deposit, bed, couch etc... we literally have nothing.

1. You have a cell phone. Take pictures. Nothing beats evidence over the possibility of quick fixes to cover up problems.
2. If you can send mail without the employees seeing it, tell places about it. (Since you're scared, you don't want to send mail from your facility's outgoing mail) . If you need postage stamps I can send you some. Snail mail, separate e-mail not tied to you, anonymous phone calls. Your local food service licensing agency (if different from), the board of health, County Adult Protective Services. State health department. State Nursing home license board. Your local newspaper. Nearby ones if available. Major bationally recognized investigative journalism papers like The Washington Post .Any rnews adio stations within 30 miles as well as any others that do their own news. Every television station within 50 miles.
3. Post reports (under a throwaway or separate account) for all social media.
4, Do Tik-Tok and YouTube videos showing the conditions.
5. See if there is a lawyer handling disability issues. If you have to file an ADA case, and you win, they have to pay your lawyer.
6. Post this to every place that accepts ratings like Yelp or similar places.
7. Google search for "nursimg home advocates Rochester" or a nearby town.
8. Look for groups doing videos on this issue and see if you can contact them

You have to advocate for yourself, don't let "leatned helplessness" seep in, no one else will fight for you as hard as you can.

I live in a nursing home in the Rochester area. It has been nothing but horrific to me. The neglect.... showers every few months, being forced to take my insulin then the aides ignoring my requests for food when I have a doctor's note to eat in my room, and suffering low blood sugar because of that! Being screamed at, called a "f-ing retard" because I'm in a wheelchair. Being sexually assaulted by a male staff member when my wheelchair was restrained on the bus and I could not move away! There are tons of mice everywhere, especially in the kitchen. My boyfriend had mice footprints on his lunch yesterday, and his bed is soaked through from someone else's piss, so he had to flip it over! There are bedbugs, roaches, and I've even seen a big ol rat! Our income here only allows the two of us $200 per month each for allowances. How will we ever get out of here? We need your help! We are going to need help with 1st months rent, sec deposit, bed, couch etc... we literally have nothing.