Language Hacking

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

CO, I am interested in your ongoing job search.

[Casual Observer]

CO, I am interested in your ongoing job search.

Thank you! It comes down to today actually. Its a weird dynamic between the apparently now demoted "hiring manager" and some apparent misunderstandings about US labor laws (any operating company has to verify employment dates and just employment dates) so its honestly kinda fraught situation. In current job news I just OWNED my new manager by dragging his boss onto a 3 way call to discuss how we can all work together. I'm just glad that I've been around the block enough to know how to block pieces of shit like Stew. We'll see about the new job, that seems sketchy too.

[Casual Observer]

CO, I am interested in your ongoing job search.

Thank you! It comes down to today actually. Its a weird dynamic between the apparently now demoted "hiring manager" and some apparent misunderstandings about US labor laws (any operating company has to verify employment dates and just employment dates) so its honestly kinda fraught situation. In current job news I just OWNED my new manager by dragging his boss onto a 3 way call to discuss how we can all work together. I'm just glad that I've been around the block enough to know how to block pieces of shit like Stew. We'll see about the new job, that seems sketchy too.

So final reference is checked. Tuesday I either get this job or I keep tormenting my manager.

[Casual Observer]

CO, I am interested in your ongoing job search.

Thank you! It comes down to today actually. Its a weird dynamic between the apparently now demoted "hiring manager" and some apparent misunderstandings about US labor laws (any operating company has to verify employment dates and just employment dates) so its honestly kinda fraught situation. In current job news I just OWNED my new manager by dragging his boss onto a 3 way call to discuss how we can all work together. I'm just glad that I've been around the block enough to know how to block pieces of shit like Stew. We'll see about the new job, that seems sketchy too.

So final reference is checked. Tuesday I either get this job or I keep tormenting my manager.

I got the job, for the first time a founder asked me to "please give me a couple of days"

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

Nice! Congratulations!

What is an interview like for a person in your profession?

[Casual Observer]

Nice! Congratulations!

What is an interview like for a person in your profession?

Well this one started with making me cold call for 4 - 6 hours for free, setting 2 Sales Qualified Leads, the interview was the easiest part oddly the hardest part was getting someone at Clincapture to verify my employent there, something that is required by US law.

[Tdarcos]

the interview was the easiest part oddly the hardest part was getting someone at Clincapture to verify my employent there, something that is required by US law.

Are you saying an employer is required to verify a prior employee's employment history to a later potential employer? I mean, I can understand most employers do this as a matter of simple courtesy, but I was not aware it was mandated by law.

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

I am also shocked to hear that it is mandated by law.

As soon as the economy picks up, all of us remote workers are gonna be DOUBLE DIPPING.

[Tdarcos]

the interview was the easiest part oddly the hardest part was getting someone at Clincapture to verify my employent there, something that is required by US law.

Are you saying an employer is required to verify a prior employee's employment history to a later potential employer? I mean, I can understand most employers do this as a matter of simple courtesy, but I was not aware it was mandated by law.

I am also shocked to hear that it is mandated by law.

I believe you have this incorrect. Unless requested by a federal agency, an employer is under no obligation to report any information about current or former employees. In fact, there is certain information you're not allowed to give out to a third party.

However, Federal law does require an employer to obtain verification that a prospective employee has the legal right to work in the United States. This can mean requiring the prospective employee to provide identification documents sufficient to prove this. The I-9 form a prospective employee has to fill out explains what is required. This is the usual verification an employer is required to obtain.

Now, if you have some evidence that shows I am wrong, please let me know, as I was unaware of any such requirement for an employer to provide another employer with information about a former employee, and I would be interested in discovering this.

[Da King]

FWIW, I know that many employers will ONLY verify your employment (IE, "Yes, Ice Cream Jonsey worked for us from August 2014-July 2019"), but will not offer official recommendations. I could not phrase the reasoning well, so Gemini did it for me.

Many companies refuse to provide references due to fear of liability, potential defamation lawsuits, and the cost and effort involved. They also face a delicate situation where a positive reference could be misused, while a negative reference could be seen as defamatory. The legal and practical considerations have led many companies to adopt policies against providing references, opting instead for simple verifications of employment.

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

Sorry, CO, the guy who failed upwards and ruined computers just got 6 billion thrown his way by the lowercase-typing scum that stole everyone's content and cries like a bitch about how he HAS to do it or has no company.



Nobody ever gets what they deserve.

[Casual Observer]

Sorry, CO, the guy who failed upwards and ruined computers just got 6 billion thrown his way by the lowercase-typing scum that stole everyone's content and cries like a bitch about how he HAS to do it or has no company.



Nobody ever gets what they deserve.

So glad I closed my Chat Pro account last week, I've resolved long ago never to do business with a company that hires Jony. I already had decided on a better tool and was 100% right about their strategy (they just hired a Head of Applications who will help monitize all the ideas they got from early users) so in fact would never directly pay them a dime unless I had to. Sure GPT is 2 of 6 models Perplexity hits but no way they're paying much in tokens to GPT for my usage so I can live with that.

In other news Jony says the upcoming GPT assistent device will have no screen and his newest innovation: black hole buttons