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Taken!


But anyway, How do you know No. 3 is correct and true?
3. That world is outside of me and is not simulated by some part of me.
You do realize that we, and the world around you, could all be generated by some part of your huge brain and in reality you are comatose in a barber's chair someplace in Annandale.

"This is your left lobe speaking now. FYI, Right brain is having those dirty thoughts about pizza and Jennifer Anniston again.


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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Tdarcos wrote:1. I exist.
2. There is a world around me.
3. That world is outside of me and is not simulated by some part of me.
4. That world has to be accepted as real in order for me to survive.
The pizza tracker has to be accepted as real for you to survive.
The Pizza Tracker is only available from Dominos. I haven't bought a pizza from Dominos in at least two years. There are much better pizzas in the area, including Ben & Jerrys, whose New York Style pizza is to die for. Fortunately they do not delivier or I'd be even fatter than I am now. Since I have to get off my fat ass to get one, I do not do so except rarely, perhaps one every six months.

But when I have ordered delivery pizza (or other things) I have found better choices than Dominos.

Besides, pizza is one of the few things I use salt on and I have been instructed by my doctors to cut back on sodium, so I avoid pizza.

Furthermore, the Pizza Tracker is not real, it is an image displayed on a computer screen and is only there as long as the web browser is open. It is a virtual construct and has no real existence, or it has a transient existence and exists only as an image created as needed, and destroyed when no longer needed, but used no space, occupied no place and changed nothing.

When a person or a neon sign exists, it consumes energy for its construction and while it operates. There is no difference in energy for the pizza tracker because the pixels on the screen use energy no matter what is showing.
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AArdvark wrote: Taken!


But anyway, How do you know No. 3 is correct and true?
3. That world is outside of me and is not simulated by some part of me.
Remember, what I repeat here is a subset of what I wrote in the original message. Which read "Third, I reject the idea that my own consciousness could be simulating the world around me, because it would require that I, at the time I was instantiated, had the capacity to completely imagine the entire world around me lacking any sense data or other information necessary to imagine these things."

I am saying that the world was real around me from when I was born. While it is possible that could change later - I'll explain why, below - I believe it to be unlikely.

"You do realize that we, and the world around you, could all be generated by some part of your huge brain and in reality you are comatose in a barber's chair someplace in Annandale."

1. I am in Maryland, not Virginia. Annandale is a small town in Fairfax County, VA. I was there once about 12 years ago to mail my friend Andrea a Christmas Present on the 22nd via Express Mail with guaranteed delivery by Christmas.) I paid $24 to ship it to her, with a guarantee of the 23rd. It got there on the 24th so I got my money back!

2. I haven't gone to a barber in twenty years. My sister cuts my hair (she went to cosmetology school about 50 years ago).

3. What fails this hypothesis is the conservation of detail. I've had lots of dreams, they are, once I come out of them, never as detailed as real life. I can go on my computer and look for files on my NAS, which is a 5TB drive accessible from any of my computers.

4. What also fails is the pinch test. It still works, you pinch yourself and you feel it in the real world; your subconscious does not know how to replicate this in dreams. (I have a story about how I stopped wetting the bed at 16 if anyone wants to hear it.)

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5. My subconscious does not know I am wheelchair bound. I have many dreams and my subconscious has me walking around or otherwise traveling in a manner which does not include a wheelchair.
"This is your left lobe speaking now. FYI, Right brain is having those dirty thoughts about pizza and Jennifer Anniston again."
'Vark, clearly you never read my other book "Instrument of God" or you would have known (from George Green mentioning it to Supervisor 246) that my favorite women are Brenda Vaccaro, Lauren Hutton, Linda Ellerbee and Christianne Ammanpour.

I have no interest in Jennifer Anniston. Cute, but not my type.
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Tdarcos wrote: The Pizza Tracker is only available from Dominos. I haven't bought a pizza from Dominos in at least two years. There are much better pizzas in the area, including Ben & Jerrys,
I'm stupid today. That's Jerry's Subs and Pizza. I have never eaten Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.
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Tdarcos wrote: I have no interest in Jennifer Anniston. Cute, but not my type.
Okay, what the fuck. Who IS your type, bro?
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Girls who eat vegetables?
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pinback wrote:
Tdarcos wrote: I have no interest in Jennifer Anniston. Cute, but not my type.
Okay, what the fuck. Who IS your type, bro?
The thing with Jennifer Anniston is that either she "got a look on your face like you ain't been fucked in a year," as Al Pacino said in Scarface, or she looks like she's in a perpetual state of almost about to cry,
Flack wrote:Girls who eat vegetables?
I don't think so.

I'm not really sure what my type is except I do like fat ladies. Now if you can tell me what characteristics are that are shared by four women I do find very attractive, Christianne Ammanpour, Lauren Hutton, Brenda Vaccaro and Linda Ellerbee, then I might be able to guess.

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AArdvark wrote: Taken!

But anyway, How do you know No. 3 is correct and true?
3. That world is outside of me and is not simulated by some part of me.
You do realize that we, and the world around you, could all be generated by some part of your huge brain and in reality you are comatose in a barber's chair someplace in Annandale.
If Paul was generating his own reality in his mind, then the outside world would look identical to the board game "Candyland".

This is more commonly referred to as the "Vegetables Substantiation".

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Tdarcos wrote:I have never eaten Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.
I would have an easier time proving the existence of God to the entire world, then you would of proving this statement of yours to even one member on this board.

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1. I am in Maryland, not Virginia. Annandale is a small town in Fairfax County, VA. I was there once about 12 years ago to mail my friend Andrea a Christmas Present on the 22nd via Express Mail with guaranteed delivery by Christmas.) I paid $24 to ship it to her, with a guarantee of the 23rd. It got there on the 24th so I got my money back!

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I don't get the train joke. Those appear to be British or European rail cars. Now, if they were from Virginia Railway Express I could get it, perhaps.

I don't get the point.
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Tdarcos wrote:I don't get the train joke. Those appear to be British or European rail cars. Now, if they were from Virginia Railway Express I could get it, perhaps.

I don't get the point.
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