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Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:28 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I have been bad about flashing BIOS because I had enough experiences where the flash process near-bricks a mobo. I think they are better these days about having a button you can press to mostly get back to where you were, and put some default code in so it at least boots.

Jiz, dumb question: you're not on a 13th or 14th Intel processor, are you? I have become aware of how those are just broken or on a path to be broken.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:00 am
by Jizaboz
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:28 am I have been bad about flashing BIOS because I had enough experiences where the flash process near-bricks a mobo. I think they are better these days about having a button you can press to mostly get back to where you were, and put some default code in so it at least boots.

Jiz, dumb question: you're not on a 13th or 14th Intel processor, are you? I have become aware of how those are just broken or on a path to be broken.
Luckily I have dodged that bullet it seems. I bought my I7 for about 350$ around 7-8 years ago just as most "gaming PCs" were being shipped with I5s. I've always been under the impression they are indestructible but picky assuming you don't have a janky model.

Everything seems to still be good now! Played lots of games and reset the machine multiple times. It tried to boot from the wrong partition again a couple of times but always ran fine after selecting drive 0. This still nagged me a bit, so I turned off "secure boot" in the motherboard BIOS to hopefully keep that quiet.

I have owned a total of 2 Intel processors aside from a Dell Pentium 2 laptop and an Pentium 166 that ran as a Quake server. My 486 I didn't know the brand. I had 2 machines with AMD on a budget and mehhhhh. I don't understand the current AMD/Radeon crowd. That hardware sucked ass on Linux 15 years ago.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:50 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
We use CBS for Fantasy Football. The mobile app doesn't let you set keepers, hasn't for years.

I saw today that the link for "My Team" is off the screen on mobile. You have to horizontally scroll and just "know" that you CAN scroll that way, to look at your team. Awful design. Terrible.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:31 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Nothing like buying a digital game on the Playstation store and not having it show up when I turn my PS4 on.

Hooooo boy.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:48 pm
by Flack
I got my first copy of Vegas (the audio/video editor) back around 2000. I think I started with a pirated copy of version 2. Over the years I upgraded to pirated copies of version 6, and then 13, which I ran for over a decade. It's what I used to record all my podcasts and edit every video I ever made. Sony bought the product and raised the price to $499 and split the product into two (Vegas Video and Vegas Audio). Needless to say, $1k was out of my budget.

Sony eventually sold Vegas to Magix and at some point both the video and audio products were combined into simply "Vegas." A couple of years ago as part of a Humble Bundle, I was finally able to obtain a legal license. I think I paid $150 to upgrade from version 13 to 18 or 19. The newer versions didn't add any features I needed or wanted, but the price was finally reasonable, I could afford it, and I was essentially paying just to "do the right thing."

My reward for all of this is... Magix Vegas sucks. On average, the program crashes at least 3-5 times for every YouTube video I edit. I now hit "alt-f, s" (save) every time I do an edit. There's an autosave feature that mostly works, but it's always a minute or two behind and so after a crash if i have to use it, I have to go back and figure out which changes were left out.

The two big competitors are Adobe Premiere, which has a cloud-based subscription so fuck off, and Divinci's Resolve, which is actually free but apparently has quite a learning curve. As for Magix, my purchase of Vegas 18 allowed for 2 free upgrades. Any complained about instability results in a link to Vegas's $149 "perpetual upgrade license." Yeah, it's $149 for upgrades.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:15 pm
by AArdvark
They want us to pirate, why else would software developers break their new versions like that?

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:53 pm
by Jizaboz
UNSOLVED MYSTERIES:

* UPDATE *

Upon closer examination AFTER buying a new fancy Gigabyte full ATX board I discover I am running a FOURTH generation Intel I7, dudes. Also, I was restricted to DDR3 RAM. New board wants 12th gen or higher, and has DDR5 slots.

Looks like I'm buying a new Intel processor and RAM. My dad has helped some as my birthday was this month. Around 10 PM I sent him a text: "I promise I don't have a drug habit, but you know how you gave me a couple hundred this month? I could kinda use that again.." I have full rights to his bank account but I never touch it without mentioning something. The other day when he gave me 200$ when he heard about the parts I bought he said "Well you never ask for anything.. but from what I heard you could use this."

https://www.amazon.com/i7-14700K-Deskto ... =true&th=1

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:03 pm
by Jizaboz
I9 looking rather tasty though at <caugh> 500$ https://www.amazon.com/i9-14900K-Deskto ... DKLB8?th=1

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:49 am
by RealNC
Jizaboz wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:03 pm I9 looking rather tasty though at <caugh> 500$ https://www.amazon.com/i9-14900K-Deskto ... DKLB8?th=1
I would stay the fuck away from Intel right now. Their 13th and 14th gen chips are degrading and dying like flies right now, which Intel execs running around like headless chicken.

I recommend a cheap AM4-based system. Like an MSI B550-A Pro mainboard: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-ddr ... 6820232907

5700X3D CPU: https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5700 ... 6819113812

The Thermalright Phantom Spirit cooler (the X3D CPUs don't come with a stock cooler): https://www.newegg.com/thermalright-pha ... 000Y-000F0

Good but not too expensive 32GB RAM (G.Skill F4-3600C16D-32GVKC): https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-ddr ... 6820232907

All combined, that's $434. Don't pay $500 for just an overpriced CPU, lol. The X3D CPUs are gaming performance monsters. Go for that instead. Even if you buy the currently fastest gaming CPU on the planet, the 7800X3D, that's still $472, so cheaper and faster than the Intel chip. But that's AM5 though, not AM4, so mainboard and RAM are more expensive than AM4.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:04 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
This is really great advice. Thank you.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:16 pm
by Jizaboz
RealNC wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:49 am I would stay the fuck away from Intel right now. Their 13th and 14th gen chips are degrading and dying like flies right now, which Intel execs running around like headless chicken.
I appreciate your advice, but my decision was made earlier. I did go for a 14th gen Intel, but the nice I7 model for right under 400. Buying an i9 would be cool for bragging rights but not much else after a couple of years given the way CPU versions have been incremented lately.

From what I've gathered from people successfully running these 14th gen Intel chips, it usually comes down to a voltage issue. Apparently these chips don't like to be ran with a lot of juice compared to the old OC-standard (and I'm not even an overclocking dude unless it's a factory default)

I'm admittedly also a bit of a AMD and Radeon hater. I haven't ran that sort of hardware since the Doom3 Alpha days because I was even more broke back then.

I DID get some nice DDR5 GSKILL RAM like you recommended.. but I bought 64 gigs of it lol (Unreal5 Editor is a hog)

I'll let you know how it goes! I'm expecting failure on the first attempt once I hook up the bare essentials because that's usually how it goes for me with PC shit unlike arcade shit lol

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:37 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
There have been "microcode" updates that Intel has made, I think for the 13 and 14s. The best thing you can do is keep your motherboard BIOS updated and install whatever Intel puts out going forward.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:06 am
by Jizaboz
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:37 am There have been "microcode" updates that Intel has made, I think for the 13 and 14s. The best thing you can do is keep your motherboard BIOS updated and install whatever Intel puts out going forward.
Yes sir! Definitely taking RealNC’s advice on updating BIOS asap for this new board.. with the old board I did do the last update as shit was hitting the fan but it was from 2014 lol

Weird how nervous I get with this stuff still despite being having no problem doing things lol working on ancient arcade monitors while drinking beer or whatever over the last few years. I think it’s a combination of the money spent and just being more comfortable diagnosing older tech.

Here’s a picture of all the boxes of all the new stuff! Still need to remove the new Nvidia card from old mobo tho. Gotta pass out again soon so it will at least be tomorrow before I start assembling.

https://x.com/jizaboz/status/1830243044 ... 64oU_CO8mQ

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:00 pm
by Da King
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:37 am There have been "microcode" updates that Intel has made
WHAT ABOUT THE FULL-SIZED CODE???? THAT DESERVES UPDATING TOO!

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:58 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Gotta talk about how god awful with fake security Verizon is.

A few of us were talking over text message yesterday about cell plans. I am playing $95 a month to Verizon - the plan was $86.15 and then they have consistently added pennies of fees each month to know it's ten bucks more. That seems like a lot for a single line.

I went to put their app on my phone.

- It forced a password change for the first thing. You know. How apps do.
- Because I won't give the app access to EVERYTHING I DO ON MY PHONE (seriously, it said that) it petulantly won't save my password and puts a screen up telling me this. It forces me to press "no" on this screen each time I try to use the app.
- Knowing the password isn't enough to get into the app. The password it made me change must be entered each time. It then demands a SMS code too.
- When I went to install the app, it sent me three different SMS codes. THREE. To LOGIN. In my HOME. Where I EAT.

Just an utterly awful experience. And it calls it "MyVerizon," so when I go to look for it alphabetically on my phone's list of apps, it isn't where I expect it to be. I uninstalled it today.

I was able to get a free Disney+ account working with it. So that is something, I guess. I can use that to watch their stuff on the treadmill.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:01 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I get access to ESPN+ as well. I swear I am not making this up:

Trying to logon to espn.com/login takes me to google.com

The only truly limitless thing in the universe is mankind's ability to fuck up a login screen.

I did some searching - guess it was nice they took me to google.com - and you have to login at "plus.espn.com". Ah. Of course. So whatever, I did that and it worked, not asking me for a password or SMS.

Fucking first thing I see on the home page of ESPN+ is something that requires a MLB.tv account. For real. I took a screenshot. This is my first experience with them. "Here's a link to watch something on a totally different service."

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This thread is ten years old. Computer experiences are getting worse every single day.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:38 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Da King wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:00 pm
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:37 am There have been "microcode" updates that Intel has made
WHAT ABOUT THE FULL-SIZED CODE???? THAT DESERVES UPDATING TOO!
The term "microcode" is starting to bug me. Usually that is a strength because I will think of something that I, at least, find funny.

I spent a little time today trying to figure out if there was a reason why code used to tell the CPU what to do should be called "microcode" instead of code. Then I thought - "microcode is code that ultimately tells the CPU what to do" is a definition of all code.

Then I thought, it's a beautiful day, I am alive, what am I doing wasting my time with this nonsense. I am willing to put "microcode" into the "bad name for a thing" bucket along with 3D printer and podcast.

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:21 pm
by Casual Observer
Dude, you literally just made a LinkedIn post on JoltCountry. (FUNNY REACTION)

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 4:14 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Which one?

Re: Great Moments in Computer Programming

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:36 pm
by Da King
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:01 am Fucking first thing I see on the home page of ESPN+ is something that requires a MLB.tv account.
This is only going to get worse. ESPN is trying to become a hub for regional sports networks too. So if you have a YES NETWORK account, you can watch your games in ESPN+ as well as the YES app. If you have Altitude (or whoever shows Rockies games), you can watch them on ESPN+ as well as Altitude (or whoever shows Rockies games). Etc.