Let us converse about VIDEO GAMES

Jack Straw · Post by **Jack Straw** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:45 pm

I didn't realize the BG:Dark Alliance game was a different dev. In that case, I've never touched a Baldur's gate.
All of the D&D stuff doesn't really apply to KOTOR with the exception of the behind the scenes dice rolls, afaik.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:07 pm

Worm wrote:
Jack Straw wrote:[quote="Ice Cream "Should Give Up on LoEG" Jonsey"](The BG games were made by Black Isle, as a point of clarification. I'd have to double-check, but I think that they are entering Blizzard and Infocom territory in that "never released a shitty game" area.)
http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,7184/

If you're trying to tell me that Justice League Task Force isn't a good game... well, then I think that you're just so jaded that you -- ah, I can't even continue this line of horseshit.

Yeah, if you take it that the concept of NWN is flawed like I do, the only one with a worse concept is JLTF. "LOLR, Superman versus Green Arrow, haw haw haw!!!!"

(In a story, a single story, like Dark Knight Returns, I can buy the Green Arrow slinging a kryptonite arrow at Superman. Yippie-kai-ay. For a fighting game, where the whole point is a one on one standoff... it's just totally retarded. Needs more Cheetah, less Superman versus Guys-Who-Might-As-Well-Be-Cheetah.)

(Actually, Cheetah needs her own game. But not a fighting game. Nor an RPG. Or a FPS, or Real Time Strategy game... no, I think y'all know what kind of game I am talking about here -- my cellphone can provide the answer quite easily, and so can the last poster in the Best Of base.)

Vermiculate Creature · Wed Jul 23, 2003 2:39 pm

Gee, if you really want a crappy fighting game featuring cheeta where your in-game persona gets the shit raped out of them each time they lose you've got wierd taste. Trust me ... that game leaves a bad feeling after you jerk off to the 3d chicks getting raped.

Lazybot · Post by **Lazybot** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:47 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
bruce wrote:I think we must be playing different single-player NWNs, then. Because I made it through the first one--and had a good time--in single-player mode, playing a single-classed monk. NOTE: not a Tank Barbarian or Fighter, not a Wizard, a monk. She hits people. With her hands.
I would say that this is a flaw with NWN trying to be like D&D, then. YOUR GOOD TIME IS FLAWED, BRUEC. Well, no, not really, however --

On the subjective level, naturally, Bruce cannot be wrong about whether he likes this game. On the ontological/objective level, on the other hand, I agree with ICJ that he can be and is wrong about the nature of NWN. NWN is a derivative game with a plodding and ham-fisted single player experience that barely passes muster as an RPG.

Thirdly, on the moral/aesthetic level, one could further argue that bruce himself is wrong for liking it - although I'll admit there have been times, when I was very stoned mind you, that I rather liked zooming in and out as my paladin kicked one of the generic enemies' asses.

If I could ask Bioware one question, however, it would be this: Why can't you buy a goddam helmet in NWN without the thing having antlers or a golden spike or some fucking thing on it?

Bioware Fuck · Post by **Bioware Fuck** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:02 am

Lazybot wrote: If I could ask Bioware one question, however, it would be this: Why can't you buy a goddam helmet in NWN without the thing having antlers or a golden spike or some fucking thing on it?

The game IS NOT Baldur's Gate. In Baldur's Gate the helmets didn't look stupid.