The quit smoking thread

Jethro Q. Walrustitty · Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:48 pm

I'm telling you, it's all in your mind. It does nothing.

Anyways, Straw, any bar owner who flaunts the law is an ignorant baboon.

There are plenty of people who are going to be more likely to go to bar if they don't have to smell smoke. Like, all non-smokers who drink.

The bar patronage will, I think, go back up as more non-smokers realize that they can go out to a bar and not be choked and come home with smelly clothes and hair and bloodshot eyes.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:02 pm

Jethro Q. Walrustitty wrote:I'm telling you, it's all in your mind. It does nothing.

Seeing how you'd cut your own wrists than -- gasp! -- allow a cigarette in your mouth, where are you getting this shit from? Provide a source, goddammit.

Anyways, Straw, any bar owner who flaunts the law is an ignorant baboon.

You fucking fascist. It's a stupid law put together by people who want to legislate morality. Church and state ought to be separated, look it the fuck up. Any bar owner who flaunts such a law is a fucking hero in my book.

There are plenty of people who are going to be more likely to go to bar if they don't have to smell smoke.

Yeah, they all came out in spades, that's why nobody goes to the bars anymore in your shitty state. You're loving it, too. That's so sad.

Just remember: first they are coming for the smokers and drinkers. Next it'll be the speeders and video game players, champ.

Like, all non-smokers who drink.

You're not a "drinker" if you don't go out and drink simply because of some frigging cigarette smoke.

Look, I hate cigarettes and everything they stand for, but because NOBODY in this country can handle legislation of vice, and because everyone is on a giant agenda placed at the pinnacle of a slippery slope this shit's gotta be slapped down. What really sucks is that I am much more liberal about this than you are. You're a fascist morality cop who will scream till the end of time what a liberal democrat he is, I believe in the complete non-erosion of personal rights and expressions, yet I hate the Democratic party and would never want to register or otherwise be affiliated with them. Yet I am closer to the "ideal" than you are. Pathetic.

Go get yourself some basic human fucking empathy before the no-fun ass manglers in this country outlaw your stuff.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:29 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Go get yourself some basic human fucking empathy before the no-fun ass manglers in this country outlaw your stuff.

I personally believe in a death penalty (no wait either, right on the street) for anyone who sells weed(Maybe by the means of a three strike penalty). I'm pretty much a damn fascist. JQW really isn't.

I just think the reason people smoke, drink, or use drugs is so they can ride the "You don't know the trouble I've seen" bus. Frankly, I think if you started you deserve twice the discomfort you feel currently quitting for trying to better yourself.

Roody_Yogurt · Post by **Roody_Yogurt** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:56 pm

Wow, Worm, it must've been great to have been raised by movies and afterschool specials, eh?

Vitriola · Post by **Vitriola** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:24 pm

I just think the reason people smoke, drink, or use drugs is so they can ride the "You don't know the trouble I've seen" bus.

No, that's why they wear black in mid-August, clownpaint, drink absinthe, listen to really unforgivable German noise bands, and have Sylvia Plath reading festivals. People that do drugs, at least in moderation, are pretty much just playing the odds that something else will kill them before the drugs will, so why not indulge? it's fun, you only live once, and like Denis Leary said "yeah [they] take 10 years off your life. But you know what? They're the ones at the end! They're the wheelchair, adult diapers years. You can have those fucking years, we don't want 'em!"

Teufel ZeKK · Post by **Teufel ZeKK** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:24 pm

Keza wrote:

Thankfully, however, Scotland hates smokers, so at least the temptation rarely presents itself.

That Trainspotting movie is full of shit then.

Then again, it was more a smoking movie to me than a heroin movie, so maybe I missed the point. Or at the very list was unable to understand that friggin accent.

Although the comment about Scottland being a country colonized by wankers was pretty funny.

Does it really suck that much to be scottish? I mean with Golf, that accent, Fat Bastard of Austin Powers' fame, and those damn kilts, there's really not much pride in being Scottish anymore is there? Ireland seems to be the vogue at the moment where I'm from. It's all Guiness and St. Patty's Day of late (Or German fanatics, but I'm turning into one of them myself so I won't berate them just yet) Being Scottish stopped being cool the moment Sean Connery stopped doing bond movies. So anyways, la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la! (The Smurfs theme for those on the "base" that are tonedeaf)

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:25 pm

Roody_Yogurt wrote:Wow, Worm, it must've been great to have been raised by movies and afterschool specials, eh?

Oh, and by the same fucking card I could call you out on being raised by peer pressure or some such shit.

All you elitist scum with your homosexual experimenting. I don't care if I don't know how hard it is to quit cock because I never started and that wasn't because afterschool specials! Afterschool specials seem like some nonexistant reference point, because I've never seen a damn single one. I'm tired of your shit. I didn't do any of this because I basically locked myself in my house untill I was sixteen in a cyclone of intense paranoia, the internet, and video games. It isn't because I was smarter, faster, and better it was because when I had the chance I hated the whole aspect of it, it made me sick to my fucking stomach. Maybe that is because I hate all of you, maybe that's because I hate myself! I don't give a shit if it means I'm bitter, ignorant, hateful, or not fun! Smoking is a stupid fucking thing to begin and if you bring it past twleve to fourteen you are a shit with little sense economic or otherwise.

So, what is the big damn deal? You all are trying to quit and smoking costs to much money. I was right you were fucking wrong; every shit head who smokes always tells me I should never start ... people just can't dedicate themselves to anything. The fulcrum of becoming addicted is trying to quit so you can have people feel sorry for you. If I said I had smoked before (which I have) you'd say "Not enough, obviously if you aren't so hopelessly addicted." if it was two years you would want four out of me.

Wait, I take that back. All I am is really just a collection of "don't have fun" commercials.

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:39 pm

For some strange and utterly unfathomable reason, a certain group of about 5 people have been rather aggressively trying to get me to smoke marijuana. I don't understand this, because these people have been in my grade since forever, have probably gotten into smoking long before then, and I barely know or care about these people outside of this pot-smoking campaign bullshit they keep trying to sling on me. "Pot doesn't mess with your head--it *altars* your head!" "Yeah, and so does a bullet, fucknut." I swear, the next time this jackass starts in on me, I'm reporting him to the fuckin' principal. Seriously, how many fucking times do you have to say "no" before these people will get it into their stupid fucking heads that by "no" I mean "no", and not "maybe later if you continue to annoy and harrass me for weeks on end"? Come on now! And why the heck are they coming after *me*? The, like, most anti-drug student in the entire school? I *refuse* to believe that I'm not the only one taking pot on a regular basis.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:41 pm

Oh, it's all horseshit so they can get more cash. Schools are just all gang drug dealers who need money so they can sponsor terrorist baby killings across these great United States.

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:54 pm

Maybe. Problem is, my school's a bit too small to make that work, and I live in a ridiculously backwater area of this great United States of something or other. My school's got, like, 500 people in it, tops. And most of those are lower classmen. For some reason, the last two Freshmen classes have been *huge*. This has, I am sure, been profesied in the Dead See scrolls as the coming appokalips or some such tomfoolery.

Jack Straw · Post by **Jack Straw** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:02 pm

Lysander wrote:taking pot

Tee-hee.

Jack Straw · Post by **Jack Straw** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:05 pm

Worm wrote:The fulcrum of becoming addicted is trying to quit so you can have people feel sorry for you.

Er, no. Actually I just wanted to "post, maggot". And it just so happens there's two other people trying to quit here, so, surprise, the quit smoking thread. And I don't need your pissant ramblings, they're making me want to smoke.

We all know you're a tool, go lay down now please. Stop sounding like a PSA in my smoking thread.

Roody_Yogurt · Post by **Roody_Yogurt** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:10 pm

I didn't start any of my vices until I was at an age where peer pressure, for all intents and purposes, no longer existed. In fact, people who knew me in high school are always surprised to see that I'm not the straight-edge guy they knew.

Lysander, that's bullshit that anyone is hounding you to do anything. I've been glad I didn't get into anything in high school because I barely cared about it as it was, but that's not to say I don't realize it might have been a more pleasurable experience.

That said, I'm glad I've done everything I've done. I think I've said it before but all those things, including smoking the cigarettes, have made me a better person.

When I was in high school and I read Siddhartha, I was a bit disappointed that the guy had to spend years living in sin to finally figure shit out. I enjoyed the book, but I resented the implication that only someone who has lost his path can reach true enlightenment. Now that I'm older, I can see, you know what, it sucks but it's true. I may never have hit rock bottom or done really fucked up shit, but my experiences have taught me how important it is to have an understanding of what comprises your own perspective.

Eh, fuck it. All I'm saying is, if you think the world is some black and white jigsaw puzzle where everything fits together nice and neat, it's... um... more like a word jumble.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:11 pm

Jack Straw wrote:
Worm wrote:The fulcrum of becoming addicted is trying to quit so you can have people feel sorry for you.
Er, no. Actually I just wanted to "post, maggot". And it just so happens there's two other people trying to quit here, so, surprise, the quit smoking thread. And I don't need your pissant ramblings, they're making me want to smoke.

We all know you're a tool, go lay down now please. Stop sounding like a PSA in my smoking thread.

Seriously? A fucking message *I* of all damn people scrambled together in a couple of minutes mispelling "until" of all things makes you want to smoke? What kind of piece of shit are you? No wonder I feel most comfortable when there is an Internet between me and people like you!

Roody_Yogurt wrote:Eh, fuck it. All I'm saying is, if you think the world is some black and white jigsaw puzzle where everything fits together nice and neat, it's... um... more like a word jumble.

You made that reference wrong on purpose!

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:13 pm

Roody_Yogurt wrote:Lysander, that's bullshit that anyone is hounding you to do anything.

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bruce · Post by **bruce** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:09 pm

Worm wrote: All you elitist scum with your homosexual experimenting. I don't care if I don't know how hard it is to quit cock because I never started and that wasn't because afterschool specials!

What the <i>fuck</i>?

Where did "homosexual experimenting" come from there?

Worm, you need to suck on either a) a big ol' bong, or b) a big ol' boner. Your call, but either way you need something to, uh, <i>relax</i> you a little. You're wound too tight for Vietnam. Probably wound too tight for New Orleans.

Bruce

casual observer · Post by **casual observer** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:46 pm

Worm wrote:
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Go get yourself some basic human fucking empathy before the no-fun ass manglers in this country outlaw your stuff.
I personally believe in a death penalty (no wait either, right on the street) for anyone who sells weed(Maybe by the means of a three strike penalty). I'm pretty much a damn fascist. JQW really isn't.

I just think the reason people smoke, drink, or use drugs is so they can ride the "You don't know the trouble I've seen" bus. Frankly, I think if you started you deserve twice the discomfort you feel currently quitting for trying to better yourself.

Wow, I can't believe the ignorant horseshit you posted. John Ashcroft just called to say you're too far out in right field even for his Justice department. If i hadn't read yours and Lysanders other posts I might think that this qualifies as "funny" "content" such as this board strives for. However, it seems that you really are an ignorant straight laced bible thumping zelot who actually advocates the idea of a police state where anything that distracts us from the day to day drudgery is illegal and subject to death.

You must think that that Amina Lawal should have been stoned (not pot but real rocks) to death for having a child out of wedlock?

You must think that tougher mandatory sentences for crack than for coke is not nearly enough? (this would mean that rather than a "fascist" you are in fact a "racist" as well)

You must think that when Greece (the country not the Rochester suburb) outlawed ALL Video Games that the sentences ("hefty fine or lengthy jail sentence") were not tough enough.

You must be a big fan of Hitler and Saddam Hussain.

Let's all hope you were just joking for the benefit of "content".

Cheers

reality check · Post by **reality check** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:53 pm

Worm wrote:Oh, it's all horseshit so they can get more cash. Schools are just all gang drug dealers who need money so they can sponsor terrorist baby killings across these great United States.

Interestingly, even someone as ignorant as you hit on something which is in fact true. Only thing is that the drug dealers are lazy school teachers, administrators, and counselors who prescribe Ritalin to kids who really just need better teachers and more involved parents.

How is it that my kid sister was doing lines of Ritalin at 14 which she got from the local kid who had a prescription.

[Sarcasm] I agree with you Worm, in fact I think school teachers and counselors should face a three strike to death penalty for handing out Ritalin.[/sarcasm]

Supreme Court · Post by **Supreme Court** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:57 pm

Sorry, Worm but we ruled that the state doesn't get to regulate what consenting adults do behind their own closed doors. Next we're going to rule that top posting is the way to go.

Worm wrote:
Roody_Yogurt wrote:Wow, Worm, it must've been great to have been raised by movies and afterschool specials, eh?
All you elitist scum with your homosexual experimenting. I don't care if I don't know how hard it is to quit cock because I never started and that wasn't because afterschool specials! Afterschool specials seem like some nonexistant reference point, because I've never seen a damn single one. I'm tired of your shit. I didn't do any of this because I basically locked myself in my house untill I was sixteen in a cyclone of intense paranoia, the internet, and video games. It isn't because I was smarter, faster, and better it was because when I had the chance I hated the whole aspect of it, it made me sick to my fucking stomach. Maybe that is because I hate all of you, maybe that's because I hate myself! I don't give a shit if it means I'm bitter, ignorant, hateful, or not fun! Smoking is a stupid fucking thing to begin and if you bring it past twleve to fourteen you are a shit with little sense economic or otherwise.
. . . Wait, I take that back. All I am is really just a collection of "don't have fun" commercials.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:18 pm

casual observer:
Oh, it isn't fucking religon. I'd simply like to see pot dealers cut down in the streets and being labeled as freedom fighters as my horrible fascism passes. Just because I don't think people should be allowed to run around commiting and supporting crime doesn't mean I don't think you should be able to read certain books. Just no botany books.
reality check:
I was acutally talking about the drug cartels that get the majority of their income from high schools not the school administrators themselves.
Bruce:
Yea, it is cute to think that I just need to get stoned and all my problems would clear up. I just really believe that drug money doesn't go to Toys for Tots; Drug money goes to more or less killing other people. Not terrorism per se but the death of your own fucking kin. What the fuck is wrong with you?