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Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:58 pm

Knuckles the CLown wrote:You can start by telling people what you want instead of pussyfooting around it. If you want five extra pounds of cheese on your pizza, tell the fucking person at the pizza place what you want instead of worrying about them laughing at you for having disgusting eating habits. They are working at a pizza place=they don't matter.

If you are not overweight and are over 30 YOU HAVE WON! This society breeds fat cattle. If you are still skinny after 30 years of walking around this smorgasborg, you have attained the rank of Arch-Mage.

Bwa-hahahahaha!!! This is the best current poster on JC.

I love you, Knuckles the CLown.

Roody_Yogurt · Post by **Roody_Yogurt** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:00 pm

I'd think, the way he implies it, I'd have to be freakin' rich or something so that life can be controlled by whimsies and full appreciation of the small things to enjoy. As it is, life is a compromise where you can't always make your own terms and have to grudgingly accept the terms given to you here and there.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:04 pm

I believe if I was rich, I would be rich and miserable.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:12 pm

pinback wrote:I believe if I was rich, I would be rich and miserable.

Yeah, you're sort of messed up in ways that money can't cure.

On the other hand, I'd be a hell of a lot better to be around in person, EH PINNER? EH?

"We're on the CUSP!!!" -- Robb Sherwin's sherry-soaked brain, every time he gets drunk

Knuckles the CLown · Post by **Knuckles the CLown** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:14 pm

All I'm saying is the basic fear, or life sucking problem is fear off what others think, and self-doubt. I know it is much easier said then done to be bold and confidant, but let me tell you mliksops this- I'm broke and most of society considers me a "loser" or "problem" or "bad-credit risk" but the boys at the Pizza Barn make my pie the way I want and I'm 1-47 on asking ugly to fair looking girls out this year which is better than 0-0 on attractive ones. Unless your a super-hero or a 15th century explorer life is pretty much boring and predictable. I don't beleive in God, but I beleive one day I might garner super-human powers from a radioactive catastrophe, that is the hope that keeps this clown around..... And the hope they let me play floor hockey next year.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:21 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
pinback wrote:If given the choice between being funny, being non-boring, and being happy, I'd choose happiness.
Over funny??!!

Choose death.

Why? YOU haven't.

(OHhhh!!!)

Knuckles the CLown · Post by **Knuckles the CLown** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:24 pm

Your wrong, money cures all problems. When I won the lottery in 92 it was BALLS! Unfortunatley I listened to my then neighbor Skeet Thomason and invested in Shopping Malls and Livestock. I tried to recoup my loses by buying wholesale cases of SEGA CD units to sell on the black market. Let's just say Shaker Heights High has 8,000 copies of Shadowrun buried in the north endzone.

Roody_Yogurt · Post by **Roody_Yogurt** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:38 pm

Hahaha.

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:47 pm

And all this time I thought Knuckles WAS Jonsey....

He writes in a similar style.

THE
WELL SPIT UP DINNER
AND CALL ME A TAXI
AARDVARK

gsdgsd · Post by **gsdgsd** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:13 pm

Debaser wrote:But happiness as a state of being? And categorically different from simple contentment? Any of you cats ever gotten in on that action?

For a period of time, yes. The hell of it is, you don't really realize it 'til it's over.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:12 pm

God, it's really a bitch when people on the internet are revealed to have emotions or mortality.

I always thought of it this way: I am. Changes in my persona ultimately result from my being. Thusly what I currently exist as has precedence over what I may change into or may have previously been. So if my existing happens to create a persona which I (I is like a subjective term here I guess) under the influences of said persona wish to exist under no more that is a suicidal persona; a way of thinking, living, and feeling that the individual can no longer bear and must destroy. I don't know if I ever was like that. I just feel like I've been me since about 14-15 and I'll probably be me for awhile longer until I'm someone else. So, I guess, I'm saying just exist and if you hate being something so much eventually you'll be something different. I think.

Vitriola · Post by **Vitriola** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:27 pm

I think people can, and do, change, but never by volition. It takes something outside us to really change us, and unfortunately, it's usually something bad. What we do have control over is our attitudes, and we can change our attitudes. It takes waking up each and every morning, and deciding, who do I want to be? Who is the me that is waiting to come out? It involves having some goddamn faith in yourself that you're a good, kind, and decent person, which is the best any of us can be, and conducting our lives like we already were. I say conducting, because no matter what we're feeling inside, our characters are determined by what we do anyway. And, eventually, when you act like the person you want to be, you will become that person. You can't help it. Nobody gives you a cookie for doing the right thing when you want to, it's what you do when you might not want to, when things are stacked against you, when you're feeling out of sorts and down that matters. And then, well, you can at least like yourself. Even when you feel like crap.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:55 pm

"Fake it 'til you make it!" - My mother, to me, umpteen times when I expose my "problems" (which, as I am coming to understand, were merely symptoms of the real problem) to her.

To the extent that any/all of you are engaging in this discussion to provide help for me, know that I truly do appreciate it.

I am enjoying my newly sparked quest to finally figure this out, and all of the inputs I'm receiving during it. The books are great, you guys are (with the exceptions of Jonsey and Bruce) great, and I'm excited that there's finally some movement in my life on this, the issue of utmost importance.

bruce · Post by **bruce** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:55 pm

pinback wrote:If given the choice between being funny, being non-boring, and being happy, I'd choose happiness.

You should read Cory Doctorow's Eastern Standard Tribe, or at least the first page of it. It's on www.craphound.com.

Bruce

bruce · Post by **bruce** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:00 pm

Vitriola wrote:I think people can, and do, change, but never by volition.

Planescape Torment wrote:What can change the nature of a man?

Regret, baby. Regret can change the nature of a man.

Bruce

bruce · Post by **bruce** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:01 pm

pinback wrote:you guys are (with the exceptions of Jonsey and Bruce) great.

I have a dick here that's not sucking itself, Pinner.

Bruce

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:08 pm

bruce wrote:
Vitriola wrote:I think people can, and do, change, but never by volition.

Planescape Torment wrote:What can change the nature of a man?
Regret, baby. Regret can change the nature of a man.

Bruce

I always answered "nothing". I didn't lie though.

bruce · Post by **bruce** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:12 pm

Worm wrote:
bruce wrote:
Vitriola wrote:I think people can, and do, change, but never by volition.

Planescape Torment wrote:What can change the nature of a man?
Regret, baby. Regret can change the nature of a man.
Bruce
I always answered "nothing". I didn't lie though.

I always wondered if the answer you gave to that question had any bearing on the plot at all.

'Cos, yeah, I told the truth too.

Bruce

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:24 am

pinback wrote:The books are great, you guys are (with the exceptions of Jonsey and Bruce) great

Ah, writing a two-page post on why you're OK is not "helpful." I see. Gotcha.

I'd end this with something pithy, but *I* am I genuinely good per-- no, wait.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:44 pm

Hugs!

Help.

Re: When....

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