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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:05 am
by lethargic
He could face the music when it came to being a lying, vicious sociopath to every single decent person at Miami Metro.
He DID face the music. But he did it in a much more punishing way than going to jail.

The whole arc of Dexter's story was that he started off as a monster who pretended to be human and slowly became human.

But by becoming human he realized what a giant piece of garbage he was and how his life had resulted in the death of every single person that mattered in his life. His father, his surrogate mother in Vogel, his wife, his sister all died as a direct result of his actions. And he realizes if he sticks around Harrison and Hannah will probably be next to go.

When he was a sociopath, he could deal and justify anything, but now that he is human, it's impossible. He finally realizes what a monster he actually was. He can no longer justify his actions. And all this ultimately leads to him having to kill the one person who met more to him than anything. And he dies right along with her.

That's why that last scene was so great. He looks directly at the camera, but there's no voice over. Every time he looked at the camera before there was a voice over. But now there was nothing. Because he's dead inside. He's not a serial killer anymore and he's not human anymore. He's just an empty shell wasting away in his own personal hell. The logic leap of going from the hurricane to mountain man was huge, but it was worth it for that one shot that said everything in it's subtetly.

Plus had he simply died driving into the hurricane, that would've been the most fraudulent ending ever because it would've been too heroic. Dexter killing himself to protect others from him? Bulllllllllshite. The whole point was that he realized he NEEDED to be punished, so he banished himself away. Killing himself would've been too easy and would've made him a sympathetic hero.

Which is something else I loved. They created a show where the audience loved and cheered for a sociopathic serial killer. And much of the audience was hoping for this maniac to get a happy ending. Instead it was the character himself who figured out what he was and what he deserved. Despite years of the "I only kill bad people" rationalization, he finally realized he was no better than anybody he killed. He was a brutal murdering psychopath. HE knew he didn't deserve to fly off into the sunset and live happily ever after even though all the fat housewives were still sitting at home going YAY DEXTER!!
(and I knew it would be unwatchable when it started). And it was unwatchable.
Well, at least you watched it with an open mind. haha
You and I could have come up with a much better final Dexter series than what we got.
No, I couldn't. And I know you couldn't either because you just wanna throw him in jail and do the most boring ending ever.
Getting shot in the abdomen resulted in brain death? Oh, the bullet "bounced around a lot." I guess it bounced so much that it nicked her brain stem.
She had a stroke. That happens every day. Even in hospitals.
Dexter was awful and I am putting the rest of my life on pause until I've convinced you.
After you did such a good job of convincing me Breaking Bad doesn't suck a pile of dicks? GOOD LUCK.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:36 pm
by The Happiness Engine
Guys! I just had the BEST IDEA for the Dexter season finale!

Air the first six episodes, CANCEL THIS PIECE OF SHIT FOREVER.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:24 pm
by ICJ
You are bored to tears with Breaking Bad, but enjoyed the Dexter finale.

I just want to set the stage here. I want the rest of us --

No. No!! You know what? I'm laying this down, lethargic. Top two pair. It's a monster hand, and I'm gonna lay that down.

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:26 pm
by lethargic
What?

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:48 pm
by pinback
Lays dyown a moanstar.

THE FACK DYID YOU LAY THET DYOWN??

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:48 pm
by pinback
Lethargic, I think his point is that "the Dexter finale was great" and "Breaking Bad sucks" are the two worst opinions anyone could possibly hold about the medium of television, or anything else.

But you clearly feel strongly about them, so:

1. No point in trying to convince you otherwise, people like what they like, and you've been a quality poster long enough, and contributed enough here to deserve our respect enough to let you express your feelings without having to defend them.

2. You are obviously an extremely insane, dangerous individual, and we've already had too many murder/suicides around here, so we're gonna ease WAAAAY back.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:48 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Ben is correct. You are one of the five most respected posters in the history of this BBS. You contribute far more than we could ever make up to you. You are a net-plus.

So while I disagree with you on this matter, I am laying this down. I am showing you the cards and laying them down.

Thank-you for continuing to come here. I realize we do not make it easy.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:43 pm
by lethargic
What?

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:45 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
lethargic is correct. He is the only voice of reason on MOST sets here. When I am going off on quicksaves, he is reasonable. When Ben is going off on other people here, he is reasonable. When Flack is going off on congressmen, he is reasonable.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:56 pm
by Flack
On the latest episode of Adventure Club Podcast, I went off on how presumptuous it is that people from New Mexico have claimed that tacos are "New Mexican" food.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:21 pm
by pinback
Chips and salsa are also New Mexican.

(Also enchiladas.)

(Also burritos.)







(Also beans.)

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:45 pm
by lethargic
Season 4 of Breaking Bad was OK.

REASONABLE.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:16 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I would seriously boatmurder every single one of you for a plate of burritos, beans and rice CHRISTMAS-STYLE right now. Oh, and chips and a sopopilla (sp???)

(Unreasonable.)

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:08 am
by lethargic
Beheadings are also New Mexican. You used to have to go all the way to the Middle East for that.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:10 am
by Flack
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I would seriously boatmurder every single one of you for a plate of burritos, beans and rice CHRISTMAS-STYLE right now. Oh, and chips and a sopopilla (sp???)

(Unreasonable.)
Oh, you should have let me know -- there are a least half a dozen places near me that serve burritos "Christmas-Style". Isn't it generous that restaurants all over the country are willing to serve New Mexican food?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:02 am
by pinback
(Also chili.)

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:39 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Flack wrote:
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I would seriously boatmurder every single one of you for a plate of burritos, beans and rice CHRISTMAS-STYLE right now. Oh, and chips and a sopopilla (sp???)

(Unreasonable.)
Oh, you should have let me know -- there are a least half a dozen places near me that serve burritos "Christmas-Style". Isn't it generous that restaurants all over the country are willing to serve New Mexican food?
Flack, that mexican restaurant you generously took me to was some of the best goddamn food I've ever had in my life. What was that place called again? I feel like going through the 405 phone book and just yelling at people at home because they aren't there. Ted's? It was Ted's?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:12 pm
by Flack
Yeah, Ted's Escondido. Ted's is pretty good, but it's also very popular -- that's why they told us it could be a 20 minute late at 8:30pm. I think I mentioned but there's a Ted's close to our work that we occasionally go to. It opens at 11am and if you aren't there by 10:50, forget it -- you'll spend your entire lunch hour waiting for a table.

There's a San Marcos just down the street from us, but to get to it I have to drive past Chileno's, El Chico, and Carlito's. There's also Poquito de Mexico, which is a bit more authentic Mexican than some of the others, and Mama Roja's, which is where I took you and Vark last year (the place by the lake). Abuelo's, Alfredo's, Abel's, and a ton of other places are also close by.

Down off of SW29th is where what we call "Little Mexico" begins. If you want really really authentic Mexican food that's the place to go, although on a couple of occasions Susan and I have wandered in to places where we were the only people there who spoke English.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:47 pm
by lethargic
Now we're back to Ted??? What happened to Todd???

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:39 am
by Flack
Watch the last episode of Breaking Bad to find out. Also, I'm glad that whole Ted business died down. I hated that story line.