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Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:20 am

I live in Best Carolina, hate mean and ignorant rednecks, but this rebel flag shit is fucking stupid. WTF is next? Ban the Dukes of Hazard? It's just like when they demanded radio stations remove the word "maggot" from the classic Dire Straits song. Why the sudden outrage? Why do you really give such a damn? Can't you change the fucking station?

That feeling you get when you see someone displaying you don't like probably feels a lot like when I see all these morons riding around with Bush or Obama stickers on their vehicles.

If I could ban everything I despise, everyone would be left with very little.

CO · Post by CO » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:38 pm

Jizaboz wrote:I live in Best Carolina, hate mean and ignorant rednecks, but this rebel flag shit is fucking stupid. WTF is next? Ban the Dukes of Hazard?

TV Land already cancelled the show and Hasboro pulled the toys. I bet they'll have to CGI an american flag or something on the roof of the car to get the shows back on the air. It's fucking ridiculous.

I am really surprised that S. Carolina removed the state house flag though, I guess the threat of economic boycott (NCAA and others I think) moved them.

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:26 am

CO wrote:TV Land already cancelled the show and Hasboro pulled the toys.

ARGHGHGHGHGH!!!!!

Tdarcos · Post by **Tdarcos** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:18 am

I missed what you wrote at the original time or I'd have responded earlier.

Garth's Equipment Shop wrote:Lincoln wasn't the heroic champion of Black Civil Rights that folks want to believe he was. He made it clear that he didn't believe in equal rights for Blacks and Whites.

"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume V, "Letter to Horace Greeley" (August 22, 1862), p. 388.

Garth's Equipment Shop wrote:How about we tell the Cherokee people they must take down their traditional symbols and reminders of their proud heritage because we associate it all with barbaric scalping of the white man and his women and children. Is that fair? No, because that is all ancient history now and no one alive today can say they personally suffered on either side of those historical conflicts.

This one you got wrong. The Indians didn't start scalping people; the whites scalped Indians in order to collect bounties paid for killing Indians. The Indians mistook this as a sign of respect for your honored enemy, perhaps the thinking was that you attempted to get the enemy's power from their scalp - the Indians had those kinds of myths - so, seeing that white men warriors scalped their enemies, this must be a proper thing to do so they returned the favor.

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:48 pm

Tdarcos wrote: This one you got wrong. The Indians didn't start scalping people; the whites scalped Indians in order to collect bounties paid for killing Indians. The Indians mistook this as a sign of respect for your honored enemy, perhaps the thinking was that you attempted to get the enemy's power from their scalp - the Indians had those kinds of myths - so, seeing that white men warriors scalped their enemies, this must be a proper thing to do so they returned the favor.

Actually some whites (Andrew Jackson) used the removal of noses rather than scalps as proof for bounty.