Ranked list of US Pitchmen/Pitchwomen

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:36 pm

Barton Fink all the way, breh.

Billy Mays · Post by **Billy Mays** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:41 pm

I didn't like O Brother were art though (or whatever it was called), it is still better than 90% of the box office movies out there of the era, but that isn't saying much.

Burn After Reading (or whatever it was called) I found to be kind of mediocre by Coen Brothers standards, still better than most movies, again not saying much.

I would respect the rest of their movie catalogue on a top 15 list......

Which makes me remember I need to adjust my list to accept:

Heat (easily a top three movie)

The Usual Suspects (top ten)

Either Alien or Aliens (I always considered them two sides to the same coin, both having equal amounts of merit, just for different reasons)

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:46 pm

Billy Mays wrote: Heat (easily a top three movie)

Blechh. You were doing so well.

Either Alien or Aliens (I always considered them two sides to the same coin, both having equal amounts of merit, just for different reasons)

Agreed, but only the theatrical release of Aliens. The Director's Cut was a huge step down.

Billy Mays · Post by **Billy Mays** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:54 pm

I think your list is acceptable. I liked your addition of Jaws, I definitely had a difficult time of not adding Das Boot to my list, I wanted to add Godfather 1 or 2 (but decided Goodfellas to be the best mafia movie)....

Saving Private Ryan, ok you have that thing Spielberg invented (the shaky cam?) that was original, and the story was good enough, so I won't argue with your pick...If I was to pick a war movie?....Platoon (may still end up on my final list)...and a WW2 war movie...A Bridge Too Far

I would also like to add Chinatown to my list

Billy Mays · Post by **Billy Mays** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:59 pm

pinback wrote:
Billy Mays wrote: Heat (easily a top three movie)
Blechh. You were doing so well.

I watched the shootout again...not a top three, but I would still try to find room on the 15.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:01 pm

Billy Mays wrote:
pinback wrote:
Billy Mays wrote: Heat (easily a top three movie)
Blechh. You were doing so well.

I watched the shootout again...not a top three, but I would still try to find room on the 15.

The shootout is phenomenal. The two and a half hours of movie around it is, with apologies to Tdarcos, a bloated, dull mess.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:03 pm

(But really, I could just list a bunch of Kubrick and Paul Thomas Anderson movies, boom, there's my 15.)

ICJ · Post by **ICJ** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:47 pm

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Here we go:

The Thing
Brick
Blade Runner
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Chasing Amy
Double Indemity
Re-Animator
Glengarry Glen Ross
The Shawshank Redemption
Lethal Weapon 2
Alien
Die Hard
Solaris
The Fountain
The Master

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:57 pm

ICJ wrote:The Thing

Yeah, probably should have been on my list.

Brick

Need to see this one.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

Still the only Star Trek movie that was a good movie, and not just a "good Star Trek movie".

Chasing Amy

Kevin Smith's best, UNTIL Red State, which you still haven't seen.

Re-Animator

Terrible.

Glengarry Glen Ross

Awesome.

Solaris

The new one? (Meaning not the old one?) Surprising.

Bob Ross' Joy of Painting · Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:19 pm

ICJ wrote:I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Here we go:

The Thing
Brick
Blade Runner
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Chasing Amy
Double Indemity
Re-Animator
Glengarry Glen Ross
The Shawshank Redemption
Lethal Weapon 2
Alien
Die Hard
Solaris
The Fountain
The Master

I believe your master stroke of adding The Thing is the only part that saves this thoroughly mediocre list.

Re-Animator on a top 15? Ouch...

Chasing Amy? I would struggle to put a Kevin Smith movie on a top 20.

Lethal Weapon 2? I have to agree with Tdarcos, while the Lethal Weapon franchise is a classic, I would have chosen something less Leo Getz intensive.

The Shawshank Redemption? Now you're just mocking us? Right?

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:13 pm

Can Bob Ross post here like he used to talk on his painting show.?

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HAPPY LITTLE
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Billy Mays · Post by **Billy Mays** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:10 pm

ICJ wrote:I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Here we go:

The Thing
Brick
Blade Runner
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Chasing Amy
Double Indemity
Re-Animator
Glengarry Glen Ross
The Shawshank Redemption
Lethal Weapon 2
Alien
Die Hard
Solaris
The Fountain
The Master

On second thought you do present a lot of interesting picks, many of them brave ones that I am sure will introduce readers to some new and interesting cinematic experiences!

I applaud your courage and well roundedness in the movies you selected.

Nice List!!!!

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:34 pm

What are you doing? Seriously. I know you're doing a bit, but what's the end-game here?

Billy Mays · Post by **Billy Mays** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:44 pm

pinback wrote:What are you doing? Seriously. I know you're doing a bit, but what's the end-game here?

No bit.

I just had some time to reevaluate the merits of ICJ's list, and came to the conclusion that my original assertions were both warrantless and woefully imprudent.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:31 pm

Okay, but his list is terrible. Listen to this: "Lethal Weapon 2 is one of the fifteen best movies of all time." Don't you immediately throw them in a mental institution?

Robb? Can we throw you in a mental institution?

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:56 pm

You guys are so wrapped up around a given film being something you can get your rocks off to.

I happen to like action movies. More, I happen to like buddy cop movies. Say what you will about that genre, there's a plot, which is something missing from There Will Be Blood and The Master. That's right: as much as you feel those are amazing, ground-breaking movies, they don't actually have a plot. They are "biopics."

And I think Lethal Weapon 2 is the best buddy cop movie ever made. So there ya go.

Similarly, with Re-Animator. Best horror movie I've ever seen, and I give it an enormous amount of credit for not using any screamers and for not having any computer graphics. (Oh, hell, maybe it does, but I doubt it. I didn't look it up or anything.)

You guys even admit to wanting to just having 15 movies from guys with the initials P.T.A. there. I'm at least trying to span genres, people.

RetroRomper · Post by **RetroRomper** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:07 pm

Are you insinuating that Lethal Weapon 2 was a better buddy cop film than Die Hard with a Vengeance?

Billy Mays · Post by **Billy Mays** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:10 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:You guys are so wrapped up around a given film being something you can get your rocks off to.

I see no problem with this.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:You guys even admit to wanting to just having 15 movies from guys with the initials P.T.A. there. I'm at least trying to span genres, people.

I have never seen any of this man's movies.

Billy Mays · Post by **Billy Mays** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:15 pm

RetroRomper wrote:Are you insinuating that Lethal Weapon 2 was a better buddy cop film than Die Hard with a Vengeance?

By a mile.

Better buddy cop movies than LW2: Lethal Weapon 1, Die Hard 1 (who forgets about Sgt. Al Powell ?), and The Last Boy Scout come to mind.

Also, I need to remember to try and fit The Boondock Saints into my list.