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Roody_Yogurt wrote:
X-Box games I like:

Evil Dead: Fistful of Boomstick
Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
Beyond Good and Evil
Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb
Psychonauts (great game)
the Halo games

Out of all these, only Halo is exclusive, and even then one went to the PC (and managed to suck after the port).

I'm not being a viscious fanboy here Worm, I just like games and new things excite me. The PS2 has lots of great games in an Ocean of shit. The Gamecube has some great games in an Ocean devoid of life, the Xbox has 2 good games in an Ocean of ports and bad FPSs.
The GBA has some great games in an Ocean of shite too, as does the DS. But atleast the shite on the DS is wireless, and will shortly be swam by Seaman 2.

I'll probably get a 360 in the end for Hi-Def video I download, as it'll accept it from a wireless network. And a PS3 is likely because it's backwards compatible with PS1 and 2, and that's just too good a proposition to pass up. The Revolution will be cheap as chips and have some innovative stuff on it, and perhaps a Kirby game, and I expect Atari to put out a 4-player Warlords port using that controller, so I'll be getting that aswell.

I want the red one.

And doom III!

I want to see mulitplayer online FISHING!! Some are the fish, some the anglers. Fish players get points for removing the bait without getting hooked or netted. Imagine! Four guys huddled around a 30 inch plasma tv with thier remote controls plugged into the reel handles, all of them jerking up and down while furiously cranking....No, on second thought I don't really want to see that.

erase that image from your mind now please.

Hell, erase that from MY mind now.


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Lex wrote:I'll probably get a 360 in the end for Hi-Def video I download, as it'll accept it from a wireless network. And a PS3 is likely because it's backwards compatible with PS1 and 2, and that's just too good a proposition to pass up. The Revolution will be cheap as chips and have some innovative stuff on it, and perhaps a Kirby game, and I expect Atari to put out a 4-player Warlords port using that controller, so I'll be getting that aswell.

I want the red one.

What makes you think that the X360 will let you play HD stuff wirelessly? Maybe a couple clips from MS's site, but if you're downloading "real" HD content, it's in transport stream format, which the X360 will almost certainly not know what to do with. I'd say that, in terms of playing video over the network, the PS3 will probably be as capable (and it certainly can run a lot more HD stuff; one demo had it playing something like 12 streams... meanwhile my Athlon XP 3200+ can barely keep up with a single transport stream.)

They do want the X360 to be a "hub" but geez, their E3 presentation was total fucking garbage and made it look like games were an afterthought. It was all about "Stryker" and how he had online rep and you could buy virtual t-shirts made by some bitch who doesn't even like games.

I could almost see picking up a first-gen Xbox and using it as an mpeg4 player since it's so easily modded, but if I'm going to drop $400-500 (I don't expect the PS3 to come in at less than $400, maybe more), I want a true HD player as well... not just a DVD player like in the X360. Also since you just know that they'll eventually make the X360-and-a-half which comes with a BluRay or HD-DVD reader.

The Revolution won't be real cheap and it'd probably make more sense to pick up a used GameCube, it'll probably have more games - the Rev is going to be probably the biggest flop ever. How many more times will people buy a console to play "Mario Kart"?

The Revolution'll support many previous generations including Gamecube BC, and is expected to clock in at $150.

REPLY-O-RAMA!!!

The GBA has some great games in an Ocean of shite too, as does the DS. But atleast the shite on the DS is wireless, and will shortly be swam by Seaman 2.

I say this not because I think Sony or Nintendo care, but because *you* might, Lex!!!! --> I got the PSP because of MAME. I'm also very old and statistically insignificant. In fact, I am not a insignifican... I am an insignifican't. Like I can't get the DS because it didn't do MAME.

I'm going to feel like a moron if it really could.

Because other than that it seems to be the superior product. I love the dual-screen gimmick. I would like people other than Nintendo to make lots of games for it, because Nintendo is definitely hurt by their fun-for-the-whole family nonsense. I want a game filled with serial killers and I have to sketch what they look like in the second screen. CRIME SCENE ARTIST. Which could never be a Nintendo (first party) game because all they care about is making stupid puns. Well, I guess we could work in body bags and it could be NintenD.O.A.

The fact that you can Mario 64 with people even if you do not personally own the game was a SHOCKING revelation. That need to get out there. I guess I am just not watching TV appropriately. Or something. I guess I am old. Everything Worm and Bond said about me was true, just not when it came to fighting games. My hip!!... My hip. The synch-up for Mario is an enormous selling point. Someone needs to make a Gauntlet game for the DS if they haven't already. And not a dumb clone, either, I want it to say "WARRIOR IS ABOUT TO DIE" and I want it to bark at other DS systems. I want all games to bark at each other. I want the DS to bark when other systems are around and more importantly, when they are NOT.

I'll probably get a 360 in the end for Hi-Def video I download, as it'll accept it from a wireless network.

Has MS still not committed to backwards compatibility yet? They really failed to get the word out. That will hurt them a little.

The Revolution will be cheap as chips and have some innovative stuff on it, and perhaps a Kirby game, and I expect Atari to put out a 4-player Warlords port using that controller, so I'll be getting that aswell. I want the red one.

Warlords with that gay-ass controller would be the only way they could save it. It would make it the third Nintendo system that I got for just one game. (B&W Gameboy for Elevator Action, Gamecube for RE4, the new shit for Warlords.)

They do want the X360 to be a "hub" but geez, their E3 presentation was total fucking garbage and made it look like games were an afterthought. It was all about "Stryker" and how he had online rep and you could buy virtual t-shirts made by some bitch who doesn't even like games.

haha, what is this, now? Please elaborate and elucidate!! This sounds like a debacle.

I could almost see picking up a first-gen Xbox and using it as an mpeg4 player since it's so easily modded

Yeah, the instant I can get a used Xbox for $79, I'm in. That, a copy of Deathrow and some soap to wash out everyone's mouth.

The Revolution won't be real cheap and it'd probably make more sense to pick up a used GameCube, it'll probably have more games - the Rev is going to be probably the biggest flop ever. How many more times will people buy a console to play "Mario Kart"?

They will do it forever.

Lex wrote:The Revolution'll support many previous generations including Gamecube BC, and is expected to clock in at $150.

Right, with the shittiest controller ever sold with a console.

Just spent $50 and get a Gamecube and use the controller the games were meant for. If you want NES games (as I wrote on groucho), get a $5 garage-sale NES and buy the games for a $1-2, instead of renting them for more than that.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I say this not because I think Sony or Nintendo care, but because *you* might, Lex!!!! --> I got the PSP because of MAME. I'm also very old and statistically insignificant. In fact, I am not a insignifican... I am an insignifican't. Like I can't get the DS because it didn't do MAME.

Did Worm hijack your account? I can't tell what you're trying to say.

Who got the PSP? You?

And if you did, why would you be impressed by the DS's wireless? PSP has all that. When Da King and I were waiting in line for SWEp3, there were at least three folks with PSPs, and they were showing up in his PocketPC's wireless. (There was one, maybe two folks with DSs.)

The dual-screen thing sucks ass. Almost as dumb as the Virtual Boy.

Guess what, Nintendo - gimmicks don't cut it. You've got to deliver superior hardware if you want people to lay down their greenies.

Because other than that it seems to be the superior product.

(Definitely a gag. ICJ is here claiming that the DS seems to be superior to the PSP.)

Oh, yeah, DS is superior to PSP. Just like a rusty Chevy Citation is superior to an Aston Martin DB9.

Has MS still not committed to backwards compatibility yet? They really failed to get the word out. That will hurt them a little.

Keep up! MS announced long ago that "some" games will be compatable. In other words, they'll probably all need patches that are brought down over the Xbox Live (which you still have to freaking pay a monthly fee for.)

They do want the X360 to be a "hub" but geez, their E3 presentation was total fucking garbage and made it look like games were an afterthought. It was all about "Stryker" and how he had online rep and you could buy virtual t-shirts made by some bitch who doesn't even like games.

haha, what is this, now? Please elaborate and elucidate!! This sounds like a debacle.

It was. However, the presentation in question is long-gone from my Tivo - perhaps it's online somewhere. Suffice to say that it included what I said, and more silliness. Like the MS guy lying down on the floor to be all "casual." It was really embarressing.

Jethro Q. Walrustitty wrote:Oh, yeah, DS is superior to PSP. Just like a rusty Chevy Citation is superior to an Aston Martin DB9.

LOL!!!

Douchebag.

Did Worm hijack your account? I can't tell what you're trying to say.

It was clearly marked as a "Reply-o-Rama." That means that I am replying to many people and not bothering to identify whom. It's like a puzzle! In text form.

Who got the PSP? You?

Yeah, I have the Milker's old PSP. But with PSP, older is better because it still had the 1.5 BIOS on it.

And if you did, why would you be impressed by the DS's wireless?

Because the DS will install a play client, allowing people who do not own one of Nintendo's admittedly weak-ass games (currently) to play games together. If I'm on a bus and I put in my Tennis game and someone else has... heh... HAHAHHAHA, sorry, that was about as far as I could get painting a picture of me ever taking public transportation.

OK, for real: I'm waiting in line at the bank or the movies or the local liver wash for my weekly liver scrub and I whip out the DS and start playing Fake Tennis with people. I am able to do that, because even if the other drunks don't have Tennis the DS will make it so that they, essentially, do. Jethro, you are a man of many opinions and many slain foes. But even you must admit that's awesome. Let's contrast that with the nerds waiting in line for "Episode 3."

PSP has all that. When Da King and I were waiting in line for SWEp3, there were at least three folks with PSPs, and they were showing up in his PocketPC's wireless. (There was one, maybe two folks with DSs.)

Those two with the DS were able to play each other's games! Statistically, there was a 100% chance that they could play together. For the PSP, you need the people in line to all happen to be carrying the same game. To expand their odds, they'd have to bring ALL their games. Gee, that sounds like fun. Meanwhile, if I have a DS I can slog around with NOTHING and there's still a good chance I'm playing NintenDoorKnobs or FamiConway Twitty's Guitar God because I got the client installed on my machine by someone else.

The dual-screen thing sucks ass. Almost as dumb as the Virtual Boy.

Have you ever actually played the Virtual Boy? They had a bunch of them at EB when I was there. It was garbage. If you can HONESTLY say that the DS is as dumb as the VB then I will eat cat hair. I think the thing is sharp. I think it offers a nice gimmick that could be used for a hundred cool, new games.

Hey, I'm all about stuff which can't be emulated. That's why I got Xenophone and CC. Say what you will about the DS, you can't emulate what it does elsewhere.

Guess what, Nintendo - gimmicks don't cut it. You've got to deliver superior hardware if you want people to lay down their greenies.

I know what you mean, but in Nintendo's defense people have been buying the same shit forever. This is why the Lynx failed. And don't get me wrong, I thought the Lynx was a million times cooler than the Gameboy. 1.2 million, in fact!

Because other than that it seems to be the superior product.

(Definitely a gag. ICJ is here claiming that the DS seems to be superior to the PSP.)

I think it is. All the PSP has is MAME and some other emulators, and Sony actively spent cycles and engineering hours on ELIMINATING it. What's your big killer app for the PSP? Death, Jr.? At least Nintendo gave everyone a shoot-em-up with their system, but there's Sony trying to get people interested in Tomb Raider clones. Maybe you are seeing something different, but I look at Medieval and I see some mope awkwardly lurch around a bungalow. Playing Burnout on the PS2's controller was rough enough, I can't imagine having any fun holding a PSP and trying to play it.

Keep up! MS announced long ago that "some" games will be compatable. In other words, they'll probably all need patches that are brought down over the Xbox Live (which you still have to freaking pay a monthly fee for.)

That's what I mean. The word is not out yet. "Some" games isn't very good info.

Jethro Q. Walrustitty wrote:

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I say this not because I think Sony or Nintendo care, but because *you* might, Lex!!!! --> I got the PSP because of MAME. I'm also very old and statistically insignificant. In fact, I am not a insignifican... I am an insignifican't. Like I can't get the DS because it didn't do MAME.

Did Worm hijack your account? I can't tell what you're trying to say.

Drink piss out of your own speculum stretched asshole.

Jeff wrote:You've got to deliver superior hardware if you want people to lay down their greenies.

You know what's got superior hardware to all of these? The fucking PC. Yeah, that's right--PS3, Xbox360, you could put all three of them together into some weird and terrifying hybrid SUPER-SYSTEM (which would be pointless because that would basically just consist of throwing the xbox 360 out a window and keeping the controler and harddrive) and it still wouldn't compare to the raw hardware of a gaming PC. Just grab some USB controlers and you are all motherfucking set. What do either the xbox or the PS3 have over the PC? Nothing except it's a few hundred dollars cheaper--well whoopdy fucking shit, everyone who matters already has a gaming PC so they dont' need to buy... anything. Playing a game on the PS3 and playing a game on the Xbox 360 is the same fucking thing, only it will be mildly less retarded on an Xbox because their controlers actually work. This is why the Revolution wins. How many games took advantage of all the power that even the PS2 could give you? How about hte gamecube? RE4, a few Nintendo-made games... that's it. So the PS3 has HDTV support. Big deal. That means you have to buy an HDTV along with it. All so that you can look at Lara Croft the basketball poll jump around... but really really shinily! Except that on the PS3 this is doubly fucking retarded because you'll still be opperating under the same principles when 2015 rolls around. Yes, that's right, peopel will be using fucking air cars with GPS maps lighting up the windshields and Jr. will be in the back of the car playing on the DS56409 waiting to get home so that he can play on his PS3 even though its games are probably worse than what you'd find on the portable shit. But anyway, so rather than deal with all that, Nintendo has instead made the decision to actually focus on, gasp, playing games. You know, this is a really revolutionary (get it) concept, that of actually putting shit worth looking at into a game before you work on making it all pretty and viewable from 8 miles away. But yeah, you guys go ahead and stick with trying ot snipe on Counterstrike with a fucking analogue stick. Meanwhile I'll be shooting you a mile off with the sniper rifle. Even though I'm blind. Why? Because it's that fucking easy with the revolution, ass clown.

Way to preach to the choir. I do 99% of my gaming on the PC, with only the occasional console game like We Love Katamari (finally got the English version) or Bomberman 94. Or maybe even DDR for a party.

However, the PS3 looks like it will probably be able to easily beat my current gaming PC (GForce 6600GT, Athlon 2600+) as well at my HTPC (Radeon 9600 Pro, Athlon 2500+ o/ced to 3200+)... but the big reason I could justify it would be that I'd be able to play store-bought HD movies on it. Which is big.

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DSs downloading games to each other is fine. Except that so few people will buy it and most of the games are crap. And your beloved gimmick is completely ignored by most games because it DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. That's why PDA games have always sucked, drawing on a stylus just doesn't work.

PSP has shitty games too, but also some good ones, and certainly looks a thousand times better, whereas the DS is barely better than two GBAs stacked on top of each other. What happened to the Nintendo that brought out the N64 - which admittedly sucked in retrospect, but was pretty impressive when Mario 64 was first seen? Now they're a pathetic joke.

Plus, devs are going to do a lot more work on the PSP than on the DS. More shitty games but more good ones, too.

The DS has Castlevania.

Castlevania sucked on the N64. How could it get any butter on the teeny little screen?



I want a game that deals with the common problems we all face everyday. Call it 'Life in General'.

Getting the last donut in the box at work. (like pac man)

Finding a close parking spot at Sams Club (like bomberman)

Telemarketers (like Duck hunt!)

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Walrustitty wrote:DSs downloading games to each other is fine. Except that so few people will buy it and most of the games are crap.

Yeah, few people are going to buy Nintendo's new toy. What are you talking about? Nintendo could release a plastic slipcase full of PIG SHIT and people would buy millions of it.

Your opinion on it (and mine and everyone else's) is immaterial. IT WILL SELL.

And then, since it WILL sell, you're pretty much guaranteed to be able to play with anyone who walks by. I guess this is only a feature for people who venture out in to public, though, JETHRO.

I've decided not to talk to you people anymore about gaming, because you are coming from areas for too divorced from mine.

JQW, you're interested in the technology. You got a PSP so you could hack it open, and that's fine. I have a friend like you, his name's Alan and he has a purpose-built mighty insulated shed with no windows and a projector, with a networked hacked Xbox he uses for emulation, HDTV and the occasional game.
I get that; I feel it to. I bought a wireless card which communicated with the DS, which I use to play demoes and homebrew, and though MAMEDS is still in it's infancy there is still some fun to be had with it. I thought the technology was silly, but I wanted to own because I knew it would lead to interesting homebrew and would find a lot of great stuff because it's so cheap to develop for. I also got an Xbox, just because it was the most hackable console.

Worm, you dig games you like, and you're rabid about it. I don't mean that in a bad way. If a Wing Commander game came out for the PSP, utilizing it's UMD media for branching, Hamill-filled drama, I would purchase one off e-bay right now. I purchased a DS because I foresaw the rebirth of the adventure game, which has started with both a first-party release and SCUMMDS. R-Type rocks, even if the reason is just that I grew up with it, because I know in my heart other shooters are likely superior. You want to buy a platform and horde it, because it'll have what you want on it. It doesn't matter to you that what you want is sequels because, damnit, you're allowed to want whatever you like and it's a perfectly justifiable reason to buy a platform. I get all of this; I bought a NeoGeo for KoF after all.

Lysander, you're someone who never made the leap, but who's camp on the other side has become strong and prosperous. You know PCs are inherently "better" with that fervour that so irritates console players, and for that I am glad you exist. The PC is an excellent platform, and as a technology and quality nerd I wish I had the funds to stay up-to-date with a computer for gaming. I totally get where you're coming from, appreciating innovation and even having fun occasionally with consoles, but, really, it's kids stuff, isn't it?

Jonsey, you're trying to keep the spark alive, interested in anything that's potentially fun, but tired of being beaten down by people who say "It's all about the games", "It's all about the technology" and "lalala I'm not listening because I'm on a PC". You stay away from the news media because, though a hobby, you dont' feel an urge to know about it all 6 months before it comes out. It's a nice surprise when things that come around rock! It also means that when you do become aware of them they've already dropped in price! You are a late adaptor, as I was for the Xbox, and proof that such people really can get the best of both outcomes.

These are all perfectly fine positions, and I've been in them all. They're all a part of me. I think the technology is fantastic and don't want a 360 until I have an HDTV, because I don't want to see something inferior to someone else.
But in my 2 years of dating a Nintendo fanny, I've been tought that sometimes gameplay is more important. The DS may be "inferior" technologically, but I've had some of the most fun of the last generation on it. I picked up a SP because it was a sleek and shiny, sexy machine when it first came out, but I'm glad I kept it because, though technologicaly redundant, some of the best games I've played have been on it.
But I also want sequels. I don't want to live in a world where there is no hope of another Dead or Alive or Street Fighter. At the same time I am willing to try something new, as dating a console-user taught me to be able to enjoy something that I'd never dream of trying, like Wario Ware.

The Revolution will have a lot of truly fantastic stuff on it, as will the PS3, PSP, DS and X360. I look forward to every single one of them, for the games, for the technology, but mainly because Il love games and game culture, and don't intend to argue over silly details that, in the grand scheme of things, can never contribute to the simple joy of gaming, whether alone, with friends, on a Plasma TV or two little screens reacting as I whisper to them, on a foggy night beside a bus stop.

Please do not stop posting.

Jeff is against Nintendo, because the Gameboy kicked the Lynx's ass a hundred years ago. It's for the same reason he was against Sega -- the TurboDuo that he bought (again, he is someone you can't introduce anything to... he found out about an archaic Japanese console HIMSELF, therefore even though it sold like shit, had no good games and was technologically inferior to the Genesis, it was somehow better) was clearly defeated by the Genesis, and Jeff's never let that shit go.

Furthermore, he is against the Xbox because Microsoft made it and Microsoft and IBM made his precious Atari ST the failure it ultimately became. It kills him that we are all living in an MS-DOS-descended world.

That leaves Sony, who didn't go out and try to crush Battlebots or something.

But seriously, every other day someone says they're going to stop posting here. I wish that today's version of that person is not you, Lex.

Fine then.

I'll stop posting.