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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:33 am
by LG
ICJ wrote:I think it is safe to say that Jizaboz leans Republican. Right? Here's my JOLT COUNTRY POLITICS ANALYSIS!! If I got something wrong, for God's sake don't post, we like it when there's 4 posts a week here.
Knuckles the Clown: Die-hard conservative Republican
Flack: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
Pinback: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
Roody: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative? Perhaps?
Aardvark: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
Worm: Socially liberal, otherwise an anarchist
gsdgsd: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative(?)
ChainGangGuy: Socially liberal, much more into housing squatter's rights than you might think at first
TDARCOS: Objectivist / libertarian
Bruce: Socially liberal, big on gun rights, Libertarian tendencies
Jack Straw: Socially liberal, also big on gun rights
Bugs: die hard liberal in all respects, Dukakis in a tank
Lysander: die hard liberal
RetroRomper: Berekely liberal minus the obsession with kind bud
RealNC: Greek, or, socially liberal, fiscally liberal I assume
That's the top 10 posters, if you're sad I didn't do you, post more.
The Jack Straw joke does not sit well with me. I am still disgusted by, bothered by, and hurt by what happened. And for as removed as I may have been from him (distanced through the internet) Adam, Noel, and Mia were human beings. So are Noel and Mia's mothers, family and friends. And joking about doesn't change that, and it diminishes the value of those human lives effected by this tragedy. And though I know I have joked, and have used humor as a means protect myself or to prevent the suffering that comes from the acknowledgement of tragedy, I don't want to do that, especially in this. I would rather focus my efforts towards preventing things like that from happening again.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:10 am
by pinback
Are you fucking serious?
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:51 pm
by Tdarcos
pinback wrote:Are you fucking serious?
Only if Serious is the name of his girlfriend and/or boyfriend, otherwise probably not.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:55 am
by Roody_Yogurt
ICJ wrote:Roody: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative? Perhaps?
For the record, while I believe money just can't be thrown at problems and there should be more spending oversight (Last Week Tonight had a great bit on "special-purpose districts" the other week), I would not call myself a fiscal conservative. Just way too much bullshit falls under that label, like privatization of government services (where our taxes still pay for these things- just without the benefit of, ya know, actually being in charge of them) or thinly-veiled policies that definitely do not exist for the benefit of the average taxpayer.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:06 pm
by CO
Nah, straw would hate being ridiculed. Not sure liberal tho, he always had a warped outlook of fair is fair but skewed towards him. I never met Mia but Noel was one of the smartest kids I've met and the worst part to me is she had to know something was wrong beforehand. Don't get angry over joking shit about Adam, we're saying he was a piece of shit. Better instead to get mad at the Rochester and NY cops who should have taken seriously and could have stopped him on the freeway.
LG wrote:ICJ wrote:I think it is safe to say that Jizaboz leans Republican. Right? Here's my JOLT COUNTRY POLITICS ANALYSIS!! If I got something wrong, for God's sake don't post, we like it when there's 4 posts a week here.
Knuckles the Clown: Die-hard conservative Republican
Flack: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
Pinback: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
Roody: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative? Perhaps?
Aardvark: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
Worm: Socially liberal, otherwise an anarchist
gsdgsd: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative(?)
ChainGangGuy: Socially liberal, much more into housing squatter's rights than you might think at first
TDARCOS: Objectivist / libertarian
Bruce: Socially liberal, big on gun rights, Libertarian tendencies
Jack Straw: Socially liberal, also big on gun rights
Bugs: die hard liberal in all respects, Dukakis in a tank
Lysander: die hard liberal
RetroRomper: Berekely liberal minus the obsession with kind bud
RealNC: Greek, or, socially liberal, fiscally liberal I assume
That's the top 10 posters, if you're sad I didn't do you, post more.
The Jack Straw joke does not sit well with me. I am still disgusted by, bothered by, and hurt by what happened. And for as removed as I may have been from him (distanced through the internet) Adam, Noel, and Mia were human beings. So are Noel and Mia's mothers, family and friends. And joking about doesn't change that, and it diminishes the value of those human lives effected by this tragedy. And though I know I have joked, and have used humor as a means protect myself or to prevent the suffering that comes from the acknowledgement of tragedy, I don't want to do that, especially in this. I would rather focus my efforts towards preventing things like that from happening again.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:43 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
CO wrote:Nah, straw would hate being ridiculed. Not sure liberal tho, he always had a warped outlook of fair is fair but skewed towards him. I never met Mia but Noel was one of the smartest kids I've met and the worst part to me is she had to know something was wrong beforehand. Don't get angry over joking shit about Adam, we're saying he was a piece of shit. Better instead to get mad at the Rochester and NY cops who should have taken seriously and could have stopped him on the freeway.
Yeah, in all seriousness (regarding his politics) I got a sense from him that he was a "I lifted myself up from the bootstraps, so everyone else should too" kind of guy. The thing was, he had an incredible amount of anger and obviously had no problem blaming other people for it. And if he wasn't so obsessed with the mistakes he'd made in the past and blaming others for them, he would have had a lot of opportunity to make a better life for himself. I think both CO and my brother were in situations where Jack had asked if they could recommend him for a job where they worked or something, but he was so consumed with inward anger that you couldn't put your reputation on the line for him.
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:32 am
by CO
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:]Yeah, in all seriousness (regarding his politics) I got a sense from him that he was a "I lifted myself up from the bootstraps, so everyone else should too" kind of guy. The thing was, he had an incredible amount of anger and obviously had no problem blaming other people for it. And if he wasn't so obsessed with the mistakes he'd made in the past and blaming others for them, he would have had a lot of opportunity to make a better life for himself. I think both CO and my brother were in situations where Jack had asked if they could recommend him for a job where they worked or something, but he was so consumed with inward anger that you couldn't put your reputation on the line for him.
That's exactly it, he threw away any natural gifts with horrifically bad substance abuse and reckless behavior then had the nerve to think he should be a cop because "they fucked me over so I want to be on that side of it". His family was rich but he fucked them over, he cheated on Rachel with her friend then fucked them both over with abuse but through it all he was the victim. He even almost killed his brother driving fast drunk. I can't even give him a mental health excuse, no way was he even bi-polar. So more and ruder jokes are in order.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:28 pm
by loafergirl
Even if that was the case... there are always two sides to every story, he can't tell his anymore. And I can't help wonder if he had more people in his life trying to lift him up, rather than tear him down if it would have been better. Ultimately, he is responsible for his actions, which were horrifying and awful, and sad. Which is why I have trouble finding humor in them.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:42 pm
by CO
loafergirl wrote:Even if that was the case... there are always two sides to every story, he can't tell his anymore. And I can't help wonder if he had more people in his life trying to lift him up, rather than tear him down if it would have been better. Ultimately, he is responsible for his actions, which were horrifying and awful, and sad. Which is why I have trouble finding humor in them.
That kid was given more chances in 30 years than most people get their whole life, from his parents, from his brother, from the women in his "life", even from the courts. Personally I gave him job recommendations based on the fact that he actually was smart and could work with technology efficiently when he wanted to. People with less chances wouldn't have been able to commit the double murder because they would have been serving a long jail sentence for his many criminal violations (to the end his parents bailed him out and paid for lawyers for his fuckups).
His final action says it all. If you want out of life, fine please kill yourself but what he did says he wanted to punish the people who he felt did him wrong: the mothers of the kids. His side of the story is obvious from the rest of his life: "i'm a victim of other people so I'm going to spite them".
There's no humor in what he did but my sense is people here are a bit embarrassed that we hung out with him and didn't see or want to see what he was capable of so we make jokes to take away from him.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:10 pm
by Jizaboz
So wait some dude that used to post here killed his wife then himself Chris Benoit style?
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:55 pm
by CO
Jizaboz wrote:So wait some dude that used to post here killed his wife then himself Chris Benoit style?
Jack Straw = Adam Parcells
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:20 pm
by pinback
We can laugh about it now!
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:05 pm
by Lg
No you cant!
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:21 pm
by RealNC
Well, we have to face reality.
They're dead.
And that's sad.
But it means they can't take offense if we laugh about it.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:59 am
by loafergirl
Lg wrote:No you cant!
I didn't say you couldn't. I said I wasn't. Because it still fucking hurts. One of the worst parts is knowing one had to have been awake when it happened. And in THIS, again, I would rather prevent it from happening. Joking can be great sometimes, but it doesn't address the contributing factors that led up to those actions.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:07 am
by bruce
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:bruce wrote:So, why can't you move away from NY, KNuckles? Don't you have functioning legs?
OH WAIT THAT'S CMDR TACOS.
I'm basically a whitey-hating liberal who loves guns. Just so you know.
Bruce
Waitasec. You ARE white. Why do you hate white people suddenly?
Suddenly?
And because they suck, duh.
Bruce
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:27 pm
by ICJ
But you ARE a white person. So you can't hate them.
HTH, HAND.
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:26 am
by Flack
That's racist.
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:59 am
by RealNC
I have some friends who are white. They're assholes.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:52 am
by Bomani Jones
RealNC wrote:I have some friends who are white. They're assholes.
But are they clean and dope?