Who's stupider, Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin?

[Tdarcos]

After seeing this video, I now realize I was wrong when I asked if Sarah Palin was stupider than Dan Quayle.

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As it has been stated many times, it is wrong to pick on or make fun of the mentally retarded, and I apologize.

[bruce]

But you ARE a white person. So you can't hate them.

HTH, HAND.

IDGI

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

But you ARE a white person. So you can't hate them.

HTH, HAND.

IDGI

You are a white person, so you can't hate whie people. That's what I am saying. You can hate individual white people, but not be guilty in general.

[bruce]

But you ARE a white person. So you can't hate them.

HTH, HAND.

IDGI

You are a white person, so you can't hate whie people. That's what I am saying. You can hate individual white people, but not be guilty in general.

IstillDGI.

[Tdarcos]

Also dont take tax write off's when donating to your little charity. You are taking money out of the governments hands by doing that. Please donate and pay your fair share so that everyone wins not the little niche group you donate money to.

While I know you are kidding, that particular point was answered decades ago by one of the brightest legal minds the U.S. ever had, Judge Learned Hand, who wrote,

Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes.

Gregory v. Helvering, 69 F.2d 809, 810 (2d Cir. 1934)

and

Over and over again courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging one's affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich or poor; and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands: taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant.

Commissioner v. Newman, 159 F.2d 848, 851 (2d Cir. 1947) - dissenting opinion

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

IDGI

You are a white person, so you can't hate whie people. That's what I am saying. You can hate individual white people, but not be guilty in general.

IstillDGI.

Are you saying you don't get it? Or you don't ... I dunno. Help me help you here, Bruce.

[raecoffey]

Nah, straw would hate being ridiculed. Not sure liberal tho, he always had a warped outlook of fair is fair but skewed towards him. I never met Mia but Noel was one of the smartest kids I've met and the worst part to me is she had to know something was wrong beforehand. Don't get angry over joking shit about Adam, we're saying he was a piece of shit. Better instead to get mad at the Rochester and NY cops who should have taken seriously and could have stopped him on the freeway.

I think it is safe to say that Jizaboz leans Republican. Right? Here's my JOLT COUNTRY POLITICS ANALYSIS!! If I got something wrong, for God's sake don't post, we like it when there's 4 posts a week here.


Knuckles the Clown: Die-hard conservative Republican

Flack: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative

Pinback: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative

Roody: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative? Perhaps?

Aardvark: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative

Worm: Socially liberal, otherwise an anarchist

gsdgsd: Socially liberal, fiscally conservative(?)

ChainGangGuy: Socially liberal, much more into housing squatter's rights than you might think at first

TDARCOS: Objectivist / libertarian

Bruce: Socially liberal, big on gun rights, Libertarian tendencies

Jack Straw: Socially liberal, also big on gun rights

Bugs: die hard liberal in all respects, Dukakis in a tank

Lysander: die hard liberal

RetroRomper: Berekely liberal minus the obsession with kind bud

RealNC: Greek, or, socially liberal, fiscally liberal I assume

That's the top 10 posters, if you're sad I didn't do you, post more.

The Jack Straw joke does not sit well with me. I am still disgusted by, bothered by, and hurt by what happened. And for as removed as I may have been from him (distanced through the internet) Adam, Noel, and Mia were human beings. So are Noel and Mia's mothers, family and friends. And joking about doesn't change that, and it diminishes the value of those human lives effected by this tragedy. And though I know I have joked, and have used humor as a means protect myself or to prevent the suffering that comes from the acknowledgement of tragedy, I don't want to do that, especially in this. I would rather focus my efforts towards preventing things like that from happening again.

If he knew he was now ridiculed by his then best buds, yes, he would hate that. Yes, Noel knew. I'm pretty sure he was grooming her, telling her that they were all gonna go to heaven together. Because tge night before she was kidnapped, she burst out in huge tears in front of my mom. She kept saying over and over that she was "scared, because she knew she was going to die soon, she couldn't tell nonny how, but she was very upset. We think (including Adam's mother Dorothy) that he told her that if she didn't get in the car with him, that he would kill her Nonny.

Also he asked me that day to go camping with him and be the supervision because Marcie said no. I said no because while he was married to Marcie, he raped me on 3 different occasions while we were exchanging Noel. Once in my mom's basement, twice at his apartment on Hickory.

The police extracted 1 video from Adam's camera. It's lost to time now but it's a 20 second video of Noel and Mia in the Hotel room that they rented, on the thruway, the first night that they had been kidnapped. In this video, Mia spills some water on the bead. Noel walks over with a tissue and tries to clean it quickly. She looks at the camera and says "Oh no Mia, I'll clean this up quickly!" Then the camera settles on Noel's face and she smiles the fakes, most fearful, anxiety driven smile that I've ever seen in my life. It broke my fucking heart.

[raecoffey]

A few more things:

1 Adam had become a born again Christian 4 months before the murders
2 he also became sober at that time
3 they let me search his car for any of Noel's belongings. This was on October 3rd 2011, exactly 1 month in. The only time in my life that I ever stepped foot in Lake George.
I found a Bible page that had been ripped out. It had blood on it, which proved my theory that he moved the girls bodies closer together (they were found next to each other) after they died. Curious about what versus from the Bible were on that page? I shit you not, the story of Aberham and Isaac.

Do I think that that was his suicide note? No. His suicide note was the video that he sent to Marcie at 9:30pm on the eve of the murders, a video of them reading their wedding vows. I think though that in his heart he expected divine intervention because he was wearing ear plugs! Also, divorce is a really shitty excuse for mere suicide, let alone the murders of your children.

[raecoffey]

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[raecoffey]

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