Calling nerds.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Tue May 06, 2003 6:51 pm

I want to know if anyone doesn't dig this shit.

On the next episode of Enterprise (Which I watch with out the normal "it SUXX0RZ" trekkie mentality") is using the fucking borg.

THE BORG!

They can't use the borg. I mean they can explain the Ferangi ... but the borg? These are different fucking quadrants people!

Francis · Post by **Francis** » Tue May 06, 2003 7:15 pm

I am a nerd... though.... am I the rite nerd.....?

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Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue May 06, 2003 10:45 pm

Would you object if I put the word "Enterprise" in your message title someplace?

I am thinking towards the front -- but that's just me.

Anyway, as I understand it, they are using the temporal "loophole" that was generated by the movie First Contact (which took place "back in time," from ST:TNG's reference).

It's horseshit, of course, Lazy, lazy writing. They've run out of things to write about on a show where the entire UNIVERSE is out there waiting to be explored. Well, galaxy, if not universe. Besides, if they wanted to crib from something, there's the whole original series to pick from.

I take it that they've used the Ferengi already? How did they explain their absence between Enterprise and ST:TNG?

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Tue May 06, 2003 11:15 pm

Remember how when TNG first came out, it was like, "SUUUUCKS", but eventually, we came to realize it was better than the original?

Then remember how when DS9 came out, it was like, "SUUUUUCKS!" but eventually, lots of people came to think it was good (even though I never did)?

Then remember how when Voyager came out, it was like, "SUUUUUUUCKS!!!" which it did, and continues to, but in the absence of any other Trek, it made do with some passable storylines and at least a couple non-annoying characters?

Now Enterprise. And it is like, "SUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!!!!!!" And it's thoroughly unwatchable in every respect. It is the worst abomination on television.

They should be ashamed of themselves for ruining a basically un-ruinable franchise.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME GETTING FROM THERE TO HERE, indeed. You fuckers.

(Are we allowed to say "fuckers" in this base?)

Idea Man · Post by **Idea Man** » Tue May 06, 2003 11:17 pm

They should do a show about ALIENS that communicate by SMELLS and they go on the SPACE SHIP and all they do is hang around the BATHROOMS because it is like a LIBRARY to them!!!!!!

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue May 06, 2003 11:23 pm

Ben wrote:Remember how when TNG first came out, it was like, "SUUUUCKS", but eventually, we came to realize it was better than the original?

Whoa! Whoa there, fella! Let's not say things we can't take back about the original series.

I will grant you that TNG got better as it went on, but better than the original?

Well... maybe the best of TNG was better than the worst of TOS. OK, I will admit to that. But I will go no further.

Then remember how when DS9 came out, it was like, "SUUUUUCKS!" but eventually, lots of people came to think it was good (even though I never did)?

I am in complete agreement with you here.

Then remember how when Voyager came out, it was like, "SUUUUUUUCKS!!!" which it did, and continues to, but in the absence of any other Trek, it made do with some passable storylines and at least a couple non-annoying characters?

Er...

Now Enterprise. And it is like, "SUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!!!!!!" And it's thoroughly unwatchable in every respect. It is the worst abomination on television.

Wait, I remember now! You're the guy who said that driving cross country is the most boring thing humans can do, except for watching Star Trek: Deep Space Nine! I remember you saying that!

(Are we allowed to say "fuckers" in this base?)

I will never censor you. Maybe I did in the past when I changed the word "Ben" to be printed as something obsene, but aside from that time.... never.

Roody_Yogurt · Post by **Roody_Yogurt** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:02 am

I think I gave up on TNG by the time it got good, so I'll never know what people liked about it. Actually, I liked DS9 a great deal, although I gave up on it also in a particular of season of suckiness so I never started watching it again when it got back on track. Considering that I think that DS9 was one of the best series (not comparing it to the original, which I think is useless to compare to), I know that I am in the minority of Star Trek fans, which I haven't yet decided is a good thing. I liked Voyager at first, but then I realized that everything I liked about it was stolen from DS9 and it just continually sucked. Even though I only watched the first couple episodes of Enterprise, I have a hard time believing that it's worse than Voyager.

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Wed May 07, 2003 3:18 am

The fact that the original series had such a low budget and poor special effects (compared to now) makes the writing look that much better. It was SOMETHING NEW. Now I think they are just pushing storyline after storyline. Starting to turn into a soap opera or comic book. how many versions of starTrek do they need, anyway?

Keep the captian whats-her-name, ditch the flying rubik's cube, and get some real writers, then you have content.

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LETS DO JOLT COUNTRY IN SPACE
AARDVARK

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed May 07, 2003 9:23 am

[quote="Ice Cream JonseyI will grant you that TNG got better as it went on, but better than the original?[/quote]

Significantly better. Exponentially better.

Well... maybe the best of TNG was better than the worst of TOS. OK, I will admit to that. But I will go no further.

Of course you will go no further. Your favorite movies from the past year have been "Action Squad X-Treme" and "Explode-Man's Revenge!"

Your taste is firmly lodged in your Janeway.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Wed May 07, 2003 9:23 am

Wow. Forgot to put a username, AND fucked up the quoting. Not a good start to the day.

(Wait, can we say "fucked up the quoting" in this base?)

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:22 pm

We both knew that it was very difficult for you to say that TNG was so much better than TOS. I just didn't think that it was going to be literally difficult for you to type in the words and everything.

Piece of the Action rules, "The Naked Now" drools.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:27 pm

I have the disadvantage of being seventeen and of starting watching with Voyager and DS9 about two or three years ago. Now, I enjoyed Voyager a bit I liked DS9 better (Digest the entire series of Voyager and all but the first season of DS9 in the two years). A year later I noticed they were playing TOS on Sci Fi. I watched all of that and I dug it. So I dug TOS, was okay with Voyager, and Really dug DS9. About a year ago they started playing TNG on TNN. I enjoyed the episodes but they were only a few.

Though I think Enterprise should stick to Andorians and Launching charges blindly through space at Romulans ... that's all I want.

James Bond · Post by **James Bond** » Wed May 07, 2003 4:51 pm

(Can we say "bitches" in this--oh never mind.)
I first saw TNG when I was, like, 9. Ate it up, thought it was the 1337est show in life. DS9 came out, and I had an anamocity towards it that I still carry today, though I have absolutely no idea why. I've only seen one or two episodes of the show though. TOS, I've seen a few episodes of, and have heard about many more. And they are, absolutely, excellent. I'd list my favorits here, but I'd end up relating each episode I saw. That's the thing about TOS: they had outrageously different plotlines every week which set each show apart from the others, so I can't really compare them because I like each one for different reasons. But, anyway... Then, I saw Voyager. ...And ate them up like Cotton Candy. I was, oh I don't know, 12 or 13 at around this time. I thought they were good, although I didn't see very many of them. When 7 of 9 and her breasts showed up, I was like "hey, cool! A borg chick! This rules!" Then they got rid of Kess, and I was kinda like "well, that sucks--holy shit! That stunt kicked ass!" So, I off and on watch voyager for a few years. Then, all of a sudden, I realize: the show is focusing more on the *crue* than the *outside happenings*. I think I noticed this when I was watching some episode wherein Voyager is being menaced by something, (what I can't remember, although I think it was some vaguery of space and not a sencient lifeform) and I noticed at the end that they were paying attention to 7 of 9 and her thong suit's problems than they were to the ship-menacing... whatever it was. After that, I was kind of like '... Dude. I don't wanna fuckin' here about this bullshit, I'm outta here!" So, yeah. Just like that, I suddenly hated Voyager. Oh, another thing about the series: I dunno how many people noticed, but they throw in every single god damn word known to modern physacists that has anything whatsoever to do with technobable, in the hopes that they can bullshit their way through each show. (there is *no such FUCKING thing* as a crack in an event horizon! An event horizon is a *zone* around a black hole! It is mearly a *term*! It is *not* an actual object to be manipulated! There would not be a "crack" in the event horizon surrounding a black hole to stick a *needle* through, *let alone* a starship! Either there is a black hole, and thus an Event horizon, or there *isn't*! *Get it*, Paramount? Arr arr arr! *bursts into flames*)
I have not yet seen Enterprised, but I have yet to see a positive review. Oh, and on the subject of the borg? Its complete bullshit. You may remember, gentle reader, that durring First Contact there is this little scene near the beginning where the borg creates the temporal wormhole thingy (TM) and disappear through it, leaving the Enterprise in their metaphorical atomic dust. At this point, the Enterprise is *still in the future*, as evidenced by the fact that they can look out the window and still see the future Earth, which is now overrun by borg. They can *also* see the past earth through the wormhole or whatever the hell they called it. Furthermore, there is this little exchange where Data says that "the vortex is collapsing", at which point Picard orders them into it beforre it collapses, trapping them into the future. At the end of the film, Geordi (or *someone*) says that they've matched their engines (or something) to the chronometric particles that made the thing in the first place. Its unrealistic because that would actually send them two centuries into the past unless they reversed it, which they couldn't because they didn't know what they were doing, but that's beside the point. The point of all this rambling is that, since the two wormholes or vortexes or whatever the fuck they're called this week are made identically, they should react similarly. Meaning: they should collapse after, like, thirty seconds or so after they're made. So, there is no way in hell they could use that vortex.
...why the fuck are you all staring at me like that?

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Wed May 07, 2003 5:03 pm

I still want more Andorians. The guy who played Weyoun plays their leader, warlord, whatever. They should stick to some of the of the TOS races that got little to no play. I mean sure for Enterprise diversity should be limited but, they still can throw in a bunch of races that were in TOS ... Their ship should be less advanced too no?

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Thu May 08, 2003 5:55 pm

Oh, by the way, I'm not a big Trek fan or anything, but I tricked out my push lawnmower to look like the Enterprise. I welded the pylons on the back and painted the whole thing battleship gray. Decals have been started. Someday I'll get my mom's digital camera and take a couple photos.

The back lawn, where no man has gone before. The dog has a couple times, though.

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SELF PROPELLED
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Calling nerds.

Calling nerds.

Alright, bitches, step the fuck aside.