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Ten vs. One

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:08 pm
by pinback
This is a language question. Let's see what the right answer is.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:25 pm
by AArdvark
There is no right answer, unless you mean ten beers is equal to one pretty good start.


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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:27 pm
by pinback
If you have ten apples, and someone asks you "do you have one apple?" do you say yes or no?

If I knew the answer to the question, I wouldn't have asked it, see?

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:48 pm
by AArdvark
Yeah you would. You already know the answer to this language question.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:55 pm
by AArdvark
Is this a quantum statement thing? Like if you have a hole and fill it in halfway you still have one hole?

The apple answer would be yes because the querent wants to know if a single apple is separate from a group of apples. The person with ten apples (we'll call him the greengrocer) responds to the querent (we'll call him the customer): "Yes, I have one apple. Do you wish to buy it or will you steal it from me and then go on a long sea voyage in search of King Kong?"


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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:16 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
If you have 10, you also have 1, yes. Anything else is a computer science weirdo being weird.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:22 pm
by Flack
The problem is, depending on the context and the inflection, I think both yes and no are proper answers.

"Do you have an old computer?"

"No, I have ten of them."
"Yes, I have ten of them."

Without context, it's difficult to determine whether "an" means "just one" or "any."

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:28 pm
by pinback
Nobody said "an". This is just about "one".

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:44 am
by Tdarcos
pinback wrote:Nobody said "an". This is just about "one".
Actually, that's crucial because it depends on whether the person is being asked in a way in which they are being queried on an inventory basis or an exact basis.

The reason you're being asked may also have to do with whether the person wants some from you (whether to buy, borrow or leech) or is just curious.

Part of your poll raises that point: "Yes, I do have one" or "No I have ten," can also be related to how the something is packaged.

If you have a twenty, a five, and a ten in your pocket or wallet, do you have one dollar? Clearly, you do not even though you have thirty-five dollars.

So you could have a ten dollar bill, and be asked if you have one dollar, the answer can be yes, or no, depending on whether you take the question as an inventory (then the answer is no) or as a value (then the answer is yes).

This actually is a good question, like the "sandwich" one I proposed a few months ago.

So let me add that as a secondary question, "if you have a ten dollar bill, and are asked if you have one dollar, do you say 'yes,' or 'no' and do you qualify your answer?"

And further, if you have the ten items, but not on you, such as in the bank or at home, how do you answer? (Substitute "in storage" for "bank" for things other than money.)

Also this all presumes you give a shit and would answer the question, or answer it honestly.

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:32 am
by RealNC
Yes. It's a true statement. In fact, it's true ten times.

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:12 am
by pinback
Tdarcos wrote:
pinback wrote:Nobody said "an". This is just about "one".
Actually, that's crucial because it depends on whether the person is being asked in a way in which they are being queried on an inventory basis or an exact basis.
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