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DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:39 pm
by raecoffey
DNA has a halflife of 521 years. That means that in 521 years, half of the DNA that you passed down through your children has decayed. At this rate, in 6 million years, your decendants will be void of your decay..decays... but is that true? Passing down DNA happens, not only on a reverse exponential, but also at a rate of half per iteration. That is the same as Xenos paradox, are you all familiar?
If not, here is a wall, it's 10ft away. I want to go to the wall so I'm going to move half of the remaining distance each iteration. True, the amount of DNA is but a shred in the end but we never actually touch the wall, therefore, you never die in your progeny.
Until the end of the human race, that is.
Speaking of tge end of the human race, I read yesterday that scientists can now create DNA
Without 2 humans dirty dancing...
So would that be artificial intelligence?
No, because they would have human DNA, just scientifically and artificially engineered human DNA, not the real thing. What if they mixed it with actual DNA? Think of the ramifications... the mixing of the races into this new, engineered DNA, retroviruses, zombie apocalypses, dogs and cats living together...
Mass hysteria!
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:58 pm
by pinback
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:10 am
by Tdarcos
raecoffey wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:39 pm
DNA has a halflife of 521 years. That means that in 521 years, half of the DNA that you passed down through your children has decayed. At this rate, in 6 million years, your decendants will be void of your decay..decays... but is that true?
Not exactly. DNA which is sitting out will decay. but let's not forget our descendants come from DNA which is, at most, half being no more than 60 years old (but probably at most 30) and the other half at most being likely less than one day old.
Now, you have personal experience in the creation of descendants and us men over here have personal experience in the fresh manufacture of DNA. Mow, you have told us you were pregnant at 14. That means that you had two components: eggs that were created when you were in your mother's womb, which means that set of DNA was about 14 1/2 years old (unless I'm wrong, my understanding is a woman gets her lifetime supply of eggs while she is a fetus.) Now, when you mated with your boyfriend, at the moment of his orgasm he ejaculated ~500,000,000 fresh sperm into you that his testicles had manufactured probably no more than a couple of hours earlier, meaning that set of DNA was less than three hours old. Thus at any time you or any woman becomes pregnant through the usual and customary fashion, her fetus started out with half its DNA being very fresh from the father, and the other half being about 6 months older than her. (For non-usual and customary methods like frozen eggs or in vitro fertilization, then it's no older than the maximum time of viable storage plus the older of the eggs or the sperm.)
What is DNA? It is a set of four chemicals arranged in certain combinations, that in 5%-10% of what is there, provide the instructions to produce a living organism. (90-95% of DNA is believed to be "junk" DNA; DNA that either has no (known) function, or its function is disabled (turned off).)
So, realize that the DNA of living entities are the copy of that came from its parent (for entities that use cloning or pathogenesis for reproduction) or 1/2 of the DHA of each of its parents (for two-parent entities) or proportional amounts for any that have three or more parents, plus, for all entities, changes that come from copying errors such as environmental problems like the environment being hostile like too acidic or too alkaline, or gets mutated trhough cosmic rays. This means the DNA at the time of conception is no older than the oldest of their parent(s).
So while DNA as a chemical becomes 1/2 degraded in 521 years, the DNA in entities still alive remains fresh because the entity grows and rebuilds its cells on a constant basis. But that's not completely true because cosmic rays cause mutations, creating tiny changes in its DNA.
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:07 pm
by Bugs
My cat’s breath smells like cat food.
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:54 pm
by raecoffey
Tdarcos wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:10 am
raecoffey wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:39 pm
DNA has a halflife of 521 years. That means that in 521 years, half of the DNA that you passed down through your children has decayed. At this rate, in 6 million years, your decendants will be void of your decay..decays... but is that true?
Not exactly. DNA which is sitting out will decay. but let's not forget our descendants come from DNA which is, at most, half being no more than 60 years old (but probably at most 30) and the other half at most being likely less than one day old.
Now, you have personal experience in the creation of descendants and us men over here have personal experience in the fresh manufacture of DNA. Mow, you have told us you were pregnant at 14. That means that you had two components: eggs that were created when you were in your mother's womb, which means that set of DNA was about 14 1/2 years old (unless I'm wrong, my understanding is a woman gets her lifetime supply of eggs while she is a fetus.) Now, when you mated with your boyfriend, at the moment of his orgasm he ejaculated ~500,000,000 fresh sperm into you that his testicles had manufactured probably no more than a couple of hours earlier, meaning that set of DNA was less than three hours old. Thus at any time you or any woman becomes pregnant through the usual and customary fashion, her fetus started out with half its DNA being very fresh from the father, and the other half being about 6 months older than her. (For non-usual and customary methods like frozen eggs or in vitro fertilization, then it's no older than the maximum time of viable storage plus the older of the eggs or the sperm.)
What is DNA? It is a set of four chemicals arranged in certain combinations, that in 5%-10% of what is there, provide the instructions to produce a living organism. (90-95% of DNA is believed to be "junk" DNA; DNA that either has no (known) function, or its function is disabled (turned off).)
So, realize that the DNA of living entities are the copy of that came from its parent (for entities that use cloning or pathogenesis for reproduction) or 1/2 of the DHA of each of its parents (for two-parent entities) or proportional amounts for any that have three or more parents, plus, for all entities, changes that come from copying errors such as environmental problems like the environment being hostile like too acidic or too alkaline, or gets mutated trhough cosmic rays. This means the DNA at the time of conception is no older than the oldest of their parent(s).
So while DNA as a chemical becomes 1/2 degraded in 521 years, the DNA in entities still alive remains fresh because the entity grows and rebuilds its cells on a constant basis. But that's not completely true because cosmic rays cause mutations, creating tiny changes in its DNA.
Ooh, good to know!
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:57 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Tdarcos wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:10 am
raecoffey wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:39 pm
DNA has a halflife of 521 years. That means that in 521 years, half of the DNA that you passed down through your children has decayed. At this rate, in 6 million years, your decendants will be void of your decay..decays... but is that true?
Not exactly. DNA which is sitting out will decay. but let's not forget our descendants come from DNA which is, at most, half being no more than 60 years old (but probably at most 30) and the other half at most being likely less than one day old.
Now, you have personal experience in the creation of descendants and us men over here have personal experience in the fresh manufacture of DNA. Mow, you have told us you were pregnant at 14. That means that you had two components: eggs that were created when you were in your mother's womb, which means that set of DNA was about 14 1/2 years old (unless I'm wrong, my understanding is a woman gets her lifetime supply of eggs while she is a fetus.) Now, when you mated with your boyfriend, at the moment of his orgasm he ejaculated ~500,000,000 fresh sperm into you that his testicles had manufactured probably no more than a couple of hours earlier, meaning that set of DNA was less than three hours old. Thus at any time you or any woman becomes pregnant through the usual and customary fashion, her fetus started out with half its DNA being very fresh from the father, and the other half being about 6 months older than her. (For non-usual and customary methods like frozen eggs or in vitro fertilization, then it's no older than the maximum time of viable storage plus the older of the eggs or the sperm.)
What is DNA? It is a set of four chemicals arranged in certain combinations, that in 5%-10% of what is there, provide the instructions to produce a living organism. (90-95% of DNA is believed to be "junk" DNA; DNA that either has no (known) function, or its function is disabled (turned off).)
So, realize that the DNA of living entities are the copy of that came from its parent (for entities that use cloning or pathogenesis for reproduction) or 1/2 of the DHA of each of its parents (for two-parent entities) or proportional amounts for any that have three or more parents, plus, for all entities, changes that come from copying errors such as environmental problems like the environment being hostile like too acidic or too alkaline, or gets mutated trhough cosmic rays. This means the DNA at the time of conception is no older than the oldest of their parent(s).
So while DNA as a chemical becomes 1/2 degraded in 521 years, the DNA in entities still alive remains fresh because the entity grows and rebuilds its cells on a constant basis. But that's not completely true because cosmic rays cause mutations, creating tiny changes in its DNA.
Wrong
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:39 pm
by Jizaboz
Mr. DNA, Mr. Kamikazi!
Here to spread some genes
Mr. Kamikazi, Mr. DNA!
He's an altruistic pervert
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:42 am
by Tdarcos
Your claim is summarily dismissed under the rule of "because I say so is not a valid answer," which is more formalized as "claims presented without evidence may be dismissed without evidence." There is a ruder way of saying this, which I won't use in mixed company at this time.
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:48 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Tdarcos wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:42 am
Your claim is summarily dismissed under the rule of "because I say so is not a valid answer," which is more formalized as "claims presented without evidence may be dismissed without evidence." There is a ruder way of saying this, which I won't use in mixed company at this time.
Debate me!
Coward!
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:05 pm
by Tdarcos
I am not afraid to debate you. I'm just afraid you will get pissed off when I proceed to use you to mop the floor.
I made an explanation about DNA. Your entire response was "Wrong," which I dismissed because you provided nothing at all to explain why
anything I said was inaccurate, in error, or even misleading, Therefor your response is summarily dismissed as lacking any evidence.
So, now, proceed to quote from what I said, and present any evidence or explanation showing me wrong in some fashion, and what the error was. i.e.
why you believe I am wrong. If you do so, I will check what I said against your comments and verify it. If I do I will show where what I said matches what science has so far determined. If I find I am wrong, I will apologize and admit it. And I will have learned something.
However, I believe your cry of "wrong" was to foment dissention and for trolling. It wasn't an honest response, just bullshit to start flame wars.
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:32 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Tdarcos wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:05 pm
I am not afraid to debate you. I'm just afraid you will get pissed off when I proceed to use you to mop the floor.
I made an explanation about DNA. Your entire response was "Wrong," which I dismissed because you provided nothing at all to explain why
anything I said was inaccurate, in error, or even misleading, Therefor your response is summarily dismissed as lacking any evidence.
So, now, proceed to quote from what I said, and present any evidence or explanation showing me wrong in some fashion, and what the error was. i.e.
why you believe I am wrong. If you do so, I will check what I said against your comments and verify it. If I do I will show where what I said matches what science has so far determined. If I find I am wrong, I will apologize and admit it. And I will have learned something.
However, I believe your cry of "wrong" was to foment dissention and for trolling. It wasn't an honest response, just bullshit to start flame wars.
Have I ever engaged in trolling before?
To your knowledge?
Am I not the one who considers you the Commander?
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:21 am
by Jizaboz
lol.
Re: DNA has a halflife of 521 years...
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:22 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I see Tdarcos did not even muster a reply :-)
I win. Again!