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The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:39 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Whatcha got????????????????????
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:16 pm
by Da King
We have enough people getting gunned down in this country. I cannot condone.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:26 pm
by AArdvark
This is a tough one. Is there an 'Other 'option?
It seems killing someone is the only way to send a real message anymore. Gluing yourself to trees and famous artworks and stuff just doesn't have the media punch.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:49 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
There's no "other" option! We are interested in HOT TAKES!
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:56 pm
by Da King
AArdvark wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:26 pm
It seems killing someone is the only way to send a real message anymore. Gluing yourself to trees and famous artworks and stuff just doesn't have the media punch.
School shootings dont even have "media punch" anymore.
I had no idea there was another shooting yesterday, until late in the evening. There was a time when I'd see/hear this everyone I turn.
We have become numb as a society.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:35 am
by RealNC
Hot take: people who think a CEO getting shot is worse than anybody else getting shot are retarded.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:50 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 2:26 am
by Jizaboz
Got too many bodies in the crawlspace to answer this one.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 5:54 am
by Tdarcos
The reason the media pushed this killing as 'tragic' and 'shocking' was to try to imbue the idea that killing business executives is much worse is because, if people get the idea that corporate misconduct justifies retaliation against executives, then people might decide when some corporation engages in layoffs, executives do bad things aren't punished, or those in power commit bad acts, people might decide to use vigilantism in response.
If a health insurance company - or any other insurer - has a habit of wrongfully denying claims, CEOS would have to travel in armored limousines. If someone with a terminal disease decides to kidnap or kill the CEO of the insurer that denied payment on their claim, C-suite executives might decide not to do such things in the future. Or once people get the idea, it might lead to mass violence against, or killing of, corporate executives.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 4:04 pm
by AArdvark
That soundsnds like an ethos for a new uprising!
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:50 pm
by Da King
RealNC wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:35 am
Hot take: people who think a CEO getting shot is worse than anybody else getting shot are retarded.
Hot take: it is worse because we live in a copycat society. One deranged person thought it was OK to murder someone in the public eye. Now someone else will think "Hey what a neat idea, I am going to do that too!". And so on. And so on.
No, the CEO of a healthcare company's life is not any more valuable than the life of Average Joe. But it gets a lot more publicity and creates copycat opportunities.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:38 am
by RealNC
Da King wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:50 pm
Hot take: it is worse because we live in a copycat society. One deranged person thought it was OK to murder someone in the public eye. Now someone else will think "Hey what a neat idea, I am going to do that too!". And so on. And so on.
No, the CEO of a healthcare company's life is not any more valuable than the life of Average Joe. But it gets a lot more publicity and creates copycat opportunities.
Isn't the copycat problem much worse in gang related murders? Why is it worse in the CEO's case?
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:02 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/20/amazon- ... ing-6.html
Amazon forced these guys to work during a tornado or be fired. They died. This was never prosecuted.
Why is one kind of murder okay?
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:50 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:59 pm
by RealNC
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:16 am
by Da King
RealNC wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:38 am
Isn't the copycat problem much worse in gang related murders? Why is it worse in the CEO's case?
False equivalence.
I dont know what you do for a living, but if someone didnt like how you did your job, should have to worry for your life? Maybe 99.9999% of America thinks you do a great job, but one whack job has a bad experience with you... that makes it OK for them to kill you?
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:19 am
by Da King
Where does the article say any of that?
I read that the drivers were told to STOP working, and they died when they took shelter inside a building that may or may not have been constructed to withstand that kind of weather (which is an entirely different valid discussion).
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:18 am
by RealNC
Da King wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:16 am
RealNC wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:38 am
Isn't the copycat problem much worse in gang related murders? Why is it worse in the CEO's case?
False equivalence.
You brought up the copycat argument, not me.
I dont know what you do for a living, but if someone didnt like how you did your job, should have to worry for your life? Maybe 99.9999% of America thinks you do a great job, but one whack job has a bad experience with you... that makes it OK for them to kill you?
Agreed. Why aren't you posting about it when it happens though? You only showed up when it was a CEO.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:58 pm
by Da King
RealNC wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:18 am
Agreed. Why aren't you posting about it when it happens though? You only showed up when it was a CEO.
There was a poll in this thread asking opinions on the murder of a CEO. I answered that question.
If someone wants to post a poll asking about the murder of another individual, I will likely respond to that one the same way.
Re: The UHC CEO getting shot and killed was:
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:50 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Any individual?