On November 20, 2024, I paid $2.31/gallon for gas at my neighborhood 7-11

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On November 20, 2024, I paid $2.31/gallon for gas at my neighborhood 7-11

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Over the past four years every single time the price of gasoline has risen, Republicans have been quick to put the blame on President Joe Biden. Whether it's some foreign policy decision, some domestic failure, or even some seemingly unrelated or random newsworthy event, the blame is always specific and singular: it's Biden's fault.

Now, sometimes people people have faulty memories. Sometimes it seems like maybe we paid a little less for gas this time last year when in fact we didn't, so I thought I would stick a pin right here to say, "on November 20, 2024, I paid $2.31/gallon for gas at my neighborhood 7-11.

One of Trump's many campaign promises, along with bringing down the price of food, electricity, and everything else, is to bring down the price of gasoline. Less than a month before the election, Trump said that not only will gasoline prices plummet, but that he will get them "as low as they were the last time I was in office."
“When I left office ... gasoline had reached $1.87 a gallon. We actually had many months where it was lower than that,” Trump told reporters outside his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., this summer. “But we hit $1.87, which was a perfect place, an absolutely beautiful number.” (Link: Washington Post)
As mentioned, gasoline prices are not the only President-elect Trump has promised to tackle. In one of his most popular rallies he said “We will frack, frack, frack and drill, baby, drill. [...] I will cut your energy prices in half within 12 months." If one of our resident Trumpers would like to track those numbers, I would love that. For me, this one is enough. This is a promise President-elect Trump has made to you -- to us -- the American people. When the price of gasoline goes up it hits us all directly in the pocketbook, and I think watching gas prices plummet by 50 cents or more will be a great win for his presidency.

Of course the price of gas tends to fluctuate from day to day. Sometimes it goes up a few cents and sometimes it goes down. Gas costs more in some parts of the country and less in others. Prices vary between grades and stations. That's why I took a picture at this gas station, on this day. Next year on November 20, 2025, I'll go back to that gas station and take another picture. If all goes well and Trump keeps his promise, I will be very excited to bring you the good news that the price of gasoline has indeed plummeted and we are all paying $1.87 or less per gallon.

I'll go ahead and pre-address a few of your questions, comments, and concerns.

"Hey, if gas goes up, you can't just blame it on Trump!"

Oh! You see, I can -- because that's what Republicans have been doing for the past four years. Many of the gas pumps I use have "Let's Go Brandon", "Buck Fiden", or the equally classic "Fuck Biden" stickers on them. Mainstream news sites like Fox frequently run stories like "Biden can only blame himself for high gas prices". If one president is responsible for raising (or failing to lower) gas prices, so is the next one.

"Getting the price of gas down to $1.87 isn't realistic!"

Well, you see there was this guy, Donald Trump, and he stood up in front of reporters and "the biggest crowds ever seen" and said he could do it. Said he WOULD do it. Why are you so quick to un-support the guy? I'm giving him a chance to deliver on his promise!

"Well, Donald Trump says a lot of things, you can't believe everything he says."

I mean, you might want to start another thread called "why I voted for a guy I know lies to me."

"You picked a day when gas prices were really low! Gas is really cheap there! It's a setup! This isn't fair!"

Actually, I didn't. I was sitting at 7-11 waiting to meet someone for a Facebook Marketplace transaction, was bored, and took a picture of the sign out front. It could have been the day before or the day after, doesn't matter. The whole point is to take a picture at the same place on the same day. (I actually paid $2.27 today on 12/22.) We're not comparing the price of gas in Oklahoma in 2024 to the price of gas in Alaska in 2025, that's stupid. Everything in this experiment except the year is set. So, it is fair. Trump's promise of $1.87/gallon is less than that anyway, so who cares.

"I hope the price of gas DOES get down to $1.87. Then you'll really look stupid!"

Are you kidding me? I hope the price of gas gets down to $1.87 too! What a win for all of us that would be! We would all have cheap gas and Trump would have delivered on one of his biggest promises! It'll be a win for America!

I've set a reminder on my phone. Next year on November 20. Meet you back in this thread in a year!
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Why are you posting something that happened on November 20th, on December 22nd?
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Flack wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:00 pm "Getting the price of gas down to $1.87 isn't realistic!"

Well, you see there was this guy, Donald Trump, and he stood up in front of reporters and "the biggest crowds ever seen" and said he could do it. Said he WOULD do it. Why are you so quick to un-support the guy? I'm giving him a chance to deliver on his promise!
He already walked back his claims about lowering grocery prices. Because it's hard. But hey, it bought him some votes, so mission accomplished!
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Brooo.. diesel prices getting lower too! Honestly every time this shit goes down all I pay attention to is diesel.

DAT DIESEL THO

The stickers are full retard considering Joe hasn’t really done anything for at least a year.
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My hope is that someone in the Greater Rochester area will make up pump stickers of the President-Elect pointing to the price window with the caption: "I did that"

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Da King wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:34 pm Why are you posting something that happened on November 20th, on December 22nd?
Why are you responding to something that happened on November 20th? We're living in wacky times, my friend.
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Flack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:08 pm Why are you responding to something that happened on November 20th? We're living in wacky times, my friend.
Wait WHA?? The time on your post says December 22, 2024???
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Today is tomorrow's yesterday.
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Flack wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:58 am Today is tomorrow's yesterday.
And tomorrow is yesterday's day-after-tomorrow.
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I forgot to stick a pin here.

On January 1, 2025, I paid $4.07 for a dozen of Great Value Large White Eggs, 12 Count.
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Regular (87 octane) is 3.70 a gallon at the gas station near us. The gas station that sells gas there sells it at a price that is 80 cents, roughly, more than anywhere else. I was told that the owner of the gas station used to live in this area, but moved to a different state and hey, he isn't part of this community any longer! So why not have gas prices that are out of whack like that and fuck anyone still living here. You have to laugh at the greed and selfishness. The window to their front door has been smashed in three times in the six years I've lived out here, probably a coincidence.

We don't go to that gas station much.

It's $4.30 a gallon for 91 octane, which my car takes. All of the other gas stations around me are selling 87 octane at roughly $3.20. Like you, Flack, I don't particularly believe that any US President "sets the gas prices" but since I plan on having this BBS around for another 30 years, why not write it down.
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 am Regular (87 octane) is 3.70 a gallon at the gas station near us. The gas station that sells gas there sells it at a price that is 80 cents, roughly, more than anywhere else. I was told that the owner of the gas station used to live in this area, but moved to a different state and hey, he isn't part of this community any longer! So why not have gas prices that are out of whack like that and fuck anyone still living here. You have to laugh at the greed and selfishness. The window to their front door has been smashed in three times in the six years I've lived out here, probably a coincidence.

We don't go to that gas station much.

It's $4.30 a gallon for 91 octane, which my car takes. All of the other gas stations around me are selling 87 octane at roughly $3.20. Like you, Flack, I don't particularly believe that any US President "sets the gas prices" but since I plan on having this BBS around for another 30 years, why not write it down.
Gas prices locally are baffling to me. Why you can have 20+ cents difference between stations across the street from each other? Is it people are too lazy to make an extra turn in the machine that's effortless work? I get branded stations have rewards cards and that's mattered a little to me once I think. Gas is gas. Your car don't care which one cause its all
regulated. The station with "bad gas" is an outlier (water in it or something) due to EPA now. So how can Chevron charge 80c more than ARCO? Advertising? Yeah, it works. Lazy? Yeah, people will waste money to save 2 minutes that they will waste somehow else.

I argued with my Brockport Economics Professor that gas is a "commodity" and I still say he's wrong it IS. Gas is the commodity, all they are quibbling about is convenience or rewards or perceived value.

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It's amusing for me to see people drive an extra five miles "because that station has gas for 5 cents cheaper."

So five cents times eight gallons is a whole .40 cents they saved by making themselves go out of thier way.

To me, gas has to be on the right hand side of the road so I don't have to turn left across traffic to get some

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I drive 3.3 miles to Costco to get gas. It saves me 30c per gallon, usually on 15 gallons. That saves me $4.50/tank. Worth it to me.
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AArdvark wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:28 am To me, gas has to be on the right hand side of the road so I don't have to turn left across traffic to get some
My point exactly. Someone goes to work or store or whateva the same way every time usually, how can there be a price difference across the street? Can you explain why someone wouldn't just get gas when they're going the right way?

When the wife and I plan our errands I take cheapest has into the planning.

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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 am Regular (87 octane) is 3.70 a gallon at the gas station near us. The gas station that sells gas there sells it at a price that is 80 cents, roughly, more than anywhere else... You have to laugh at the greed and selfishness.
Then don't buy gas there. Problem solved. If enough people don't stop there, he will either lower prices or go out of business. How is it 'selfishness' if he sells something but you don't like the price? It's not like someone charging $10 a gallon for water when there's a water shortage. You have alternatives. He is selling a commodity product that there are probably 10 other places within a couple miles from his station selling the same thing. It's not like he charges you more (or won't sell to you) because you're white.

I am reminded of a guy in a movie who owns a used car dealership and is a very sharp operator, doesn't give refunds and if someone brings a car back because they can't afford the payments, and wants them to take the car back, refuses. He explains it like this. "Fuck him. He doesn't owe the money to me, he owes it to the finance company, and he should take it up with them. He's supposed to know what he can afford when he comes in.

"Understand this, when it cones to buying a car, the customer has all the power in the transaction. The customer decides to buy a car. The customer decides to go to a specific car dealer. The customer decides what kind of car they want. The customer decides how much he can afford. He decides if he wants to finance it, and if so, for how long, whether he negotiates with us or has his own bank doing the financing. The customer decides whether or not to sign the paperwork. And, more than anything else, at any time before signing, [he can get up, and walk out. I have no control over any of these."
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 amThe window to their front door has been smashed in three times in the six years I've lived out here, probably a coincidence.
And if he can find out who did it, prosecute and sue them for damages. Not liking someone's prices is not a valid reason to resort to violence.
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 amWe don't go to that gas station much.
Exactly. Problem solved.
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 amIt's $4.30 a gallon for 91 octane, which my car takes. All of the other gas stations around me are selling 87 octane at roughly $3.20.
So go to them to get it. I've probably bought gas at a hundred different stations in the roughly 15 years I've owned or rented a car, and I've never encountered a gas station that didn't sell 91 octane (premium) as well as 87 (regular).
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 amLike you, Flack, I don't particularly believe that any US President "sets the gas prices" but since I plan on having this BBS around for another 30 years, why not write it down.
The President has zero authority to do anything to set gasoline or diesel prices. Oil companies, refiners, and the stations themselves set the prices based on their costs and what people are willing to pay. There may be some stabilizing effect or slight reduction by selling oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but at best that either delays or reduces the upward pressure during a shortage or crisis. Since the reserve only has enough oil for about 45 days, it's not much help, long term.
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Tdarcos wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:37 pm
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 am Regular (87 octane) is 3.70 a gallon at the gas station near us. The gas station that sells gas there sells it at a price that is 80 cents, roughly, more than anywhere else... You have to laugh at the greed and selfishness.
Then don't buy gas there. Problem solved. If enough people don't stop there, he will either lower prices or go out of business. How is it 'selfishness' if he sells something but you don't like the price? It's not like someone charging $10 a gallon for water when there's a water shortage. You have alternatives. He is selling a commodity product that there are probably 10 other places within a couple miles from his station selling the same thing. It's not like he charges you more (or won't sell to you) because you're white.

I am reminded of a guy in a movie who owns a used car dealership and is a very sharp operator, doesn't give refunds and if someone brings a car back because they can't afford the payments, and wants them to take the car back, refuses. He explains it like this. "Fuck him. He doesn't owe the money to me, he owes it to the finance company, and he should take it up with them. He's supposed to know what he can afford when he comes in.

"Understand this, when it cones to buying a car, the customer has all the power in the transaction. The customer decides to buy a car. The customer decides to go to a specific car dealer. The customer decides what kind of car they want. The customer decides how much he can afford. He decides if he wants to finance it, and if so, for how long, whether he negotiates with us or has his own bank doing the financing. The customer decides whether or not to sign the paperwork. And, more than anything else, at any time before signing, [he can get up, and walk out. I have no control over any of these."
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 amThe window to their front door has been smashed in three times in the six years I've lived out here, probably a coincidence.
And if he can find out who did it, prosecute and sue them for damages. Not liking someone's prices is not a valid reason to resort to violence.
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 amWe don't go to that gas station much.
Exactly. Problem solved.
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 amIt's $4.30 a gallon for 91 octane, which my car takes. All of the other gas stations around me are selling 87 octane at roughly $3.20.
So go to them to get it. I've probably bought gas at a hundred different stations in the roughly 15 years I've owned or rented a car, and I've never encountered a gas station that didn't sell 91 octane (premium) as well as 87 (regular).
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 amLike you, Flack, I don't particularly believe that any US President "sets the gas prices" but since I plan on having this BBS around for another 30 years, why not write it down.
The President has zero authority to do anything to set gasoline or diesel prices. Oil companies, refiners, and the stations themselves set the prices based on their costs and what people are willing to pay. There may be some stabilizing effect or slight reduction by selling oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but at best that either delays or reduces the upward pressure during a shortage or crisis. Since the reserve only has enough oil for about 45 days, it's not much help, long term.
Since Gas IS a commodity, why do you think gas stations can successfully charge significantly more than the one across the street? Some of it is marketing and loyalty cards but what else explains it except sheer human lazyness

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I didn't expect to see Paul bootlick a carpetbagging piece of shit near my community, but 2025 is just chock full of surprises.
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:05 pmcarpetbagging
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Huh!

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