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Excel equivalent for Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:30 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Can anyone recommend an Excel replacement program for Windows? Just found this shit out...

I'm tabulating some results of some stuff I did. I type in a number. I hit Cntl-C to copy a cell. I will be pasting that cell many, many times! I paste it. I type in a new number. I go to paste the cell... but I can't! Hahahah!

Microsoft broke copying and pasting. THEY FUCKING BROKE COPYING AND PASTING, THE EASIEST THING A FUCKING APPLICATION HAS TO DO.

Unbelievably, they want it this way:

http://broken.typepad.com/b/2004/02/mic ... excel.html
Not only has this always been broken - Microsoft has always *known* that its broken. In "Debugging the Development Process", Steve McGuire notes this problem but them claims, amazingly, that users are not confused or irritated by it and that "most people never notice that it's different."! (pp. 67-68 in my edition). I think what he meant to say is that "Microsoft never notices that most people are confused and irritated by it."
I mean... just read that. It's a fucking joke.

I can't use a program designed by fucking morons. Anyone know of a replacement program? For Windows XP. Has to be 100% compatible with Excel, though.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:36 pm
by Casual Observer
How about StarOffice:
http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/

It used to be free for a single user but I think you have to pay for it now.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:42 pm
by bruce
Casual Observer wrote:How about StarOffice:
http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/

It used to be free for a single user but I think you have to pay for it now.
OpenOffice is free. I would assume it exists on Windows as well as Linux. It's the same codebase as StarOffice, and it's usually Good Enough.

Bruce

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:44 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Ah! I thought (Star Office) only worked on Linux or Unix or FreeBSD and so forth. I had no idea.

I don't like that facts escaped my knowledge and they call themselves "Sun." The Sun, if it decided to get into marketing rather than producing billions of thermo-nuclear explosions every second and throwing off enough light to be seen from billions of miles away would not have let me not know certain facts about whatever products it was hawking. If it were chewing gum, I'd know every flavor it came in. If it were tractors, I'd know exactly how tall I could let my lawn go before THE SUN (C) LTD INC. TRACTOR CO brand lawnmower could still hack away at it.

But Sun the software developer, yeah, they don't give a shit. And I even read Slashdot.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:45 pm
by Casual Observer
Couldn't you record a macro to copy whatever it is that you want to keep pasting? Just use a hotkey to copy it with the macro and paste normally. It's still a pain in the ass though. Or put what you want to keep pasting into another program and copy it from there.

Re: Excel equivalent for Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:56 pm
by k. roo
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Unbelievably, they want it this way:

http://broken.typepad.com/b/2004/02/mic ... excel.html
Those people are fucking morons. So what now, "Vanya 'Pizda' Tucherov" discovers on February 17, of 200-fucking-4 how the motherfucking Excel clipboard works? Hello, good morning, It's been like that since the days of Win 3 probably longer, get fucking used to it.

I hear that Open Office has an Excel equivalent. Never used it myself though.

Re: Excel equivalent for Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:29 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
k. roo wrote:Those people are fucking morons. So what now, "Vanya 'Pizda' Tucherov" discovers on February 17, of 200-fucking-4 how the motherfucking Excel clipboard works? Hello, good morning, It's been like that since the days of Win 3 probably longer, get fucking used to it.
Yeah, but Excel has a choice when you start typing after a Ctrl-C :

1) Do nothing.

2) Erase the saved data! Abort! Abort!! Quick, get Clippy the MS Animated Paper Clip swimming around the vagina of my document aborting all that he can!!!

I'm pro-abortion, normally. Not because I hate people or because I am trying to go for shock value, I just really like the concept of metal and snatch. But when it comes to my Excel documents I am the most pro-life person you're ever going to find on the web. I'm Fred Phelps talking shop with the Pope on this one Excel issue.

"Every datum is sacred!" -- E. Idle

Gobe Productive

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:46 am
by Kent
Not as powerful as Excel, but:

www.gobe.com