Bottling.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:56 pm

Let's say I have a product I want to bottle and sell, in little 5 oz bottles. I can get bottles from any of various online websites.

Now, the parts I don't know are about labelling and capping. I'm paying an illustrator to design the label, so I'll have the art, but I'll need to find out how to make labels from it, and then cap the bottles in some secure fashion (like with the little lower plastic ring that you crack open when you twist the cap for the first time, or something.)

Anyone know how to do that?

Draal · Post by **Draal** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:13 pm

I'd suggest looking into those diy brewery kits, as I'm sure they include bottling.

Or hey... Do a search! On a... Search, Engine.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:14 pm

Not beer. The caps have to be plastic screwcaps, such as you might find on, say, a bottle of hot sauce.

Vitriola · Post by **Vitriola** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:18 pm

If you were selling, say, hot sauce, and not just among your friends, you'd really have to get FDA specs involved up in that, and then get it done by a certified, uh, spec person. If it were just to be among folks, not so much.

Lots of people sell their homemade things, with business license and the like. See a bottle and cap you like? Ask.

Draal · Post by **Draal** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:18 pm

When I said beer bottling, I meant "Heres an industry thats been selling small scale bottling tehcniques for years and would be a good place to begin your search."

Vitriola · Post by **Vitriola** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:22 pm

Why? Beer bottling plants don't, and never have, used plastic caps. I think it would me MUCH better to approach an industry that uses plastic caps so as not to waste time, right?

Here's you: "well, it can't hurt to ASK, can it?"

Here's the person at the other end of the phone: "Uh, well, I wouldn't know about that. We use metal caps? You know? We're not the cap experts, see? We just use these. Like we have for, I dunno, a hundred years or so. Good luck with that!"

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:36 pm

I'm gonna need an industry expert to teach me how to get this done. I have a sauce and a dream. And shortly a logo.

Let's MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:53 pm

Vitriola wrote:Why? Beer bottling plants don't, and never have, used plastic caps. I think it would me MUCH better to approach an industry that uses plastic caps so as not to waste time, right?

Here's you: "well, it can't hurt to ASK, can it?"

Here's the person at the other end of the phone: "Uh, well, I wouldn't know about that. We use metal caps? You know? We're not the cap experts, see? We just use these. Like we have for, I dunno, a hundred years or so. Good luck with that!"

OK, maybe not a beer bottling place, but what about people who make those little bottles of 99 bananas and such?

Oh. I am going to make a filter so that every time "banana" is used, it comes out yellow. In fact, it may already be working by the time you see this post!

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:55 pm

Well, that worked like shit.

banana.

Draal · Post by **Draal** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:00 pm

I meant the "home brewing industry." They sell kits. People routinely bottle their home made barral ale; I've seen it done and have tasted the results (admittingly at the age of 14; do you want to know my past?)

Thats right... They sell BOTTLING KITS.

http://www.undergrounddigital.com/bottlingequip.htm

And a search on yee olde Google for "hot sauce bottling" returns the following...

"Hot sauce is usually acidic because it usually has vinegar and often tomato in it. This means it can be hot filled into glass or plastic bottles, sealed and held for a short time, then cooled."

http://experts.about.com/q/Food-Enginee ... tsauce.htm

Now we have a process we can look up... "Hot filled bottling"

Which reveals nothing of interest except... Ha Huh! Boil bottling?

Its a manafacture process! Yay!

Now Pinback, realize this; what are you trying to accomplish? Air tight seal? Sellable quality? Holy fuck! The home brewing kits will kick your ass! Except use the following method if you want to be cheap...

Bottling...

Use the pickeled fruit method! People bottle fruit, the process isn't that much different for anything else (put bottle under hot water, let the seal tighten, then boil the bottle to kill germs and other sloppy fucks in the brew).

Just refer to the beer bottling scene who... Get this... SELL HOME KITS FOR BOTTLING AND LABELING!

Or if your a real tawdry asshole...

http://www.mayerscidermill.com/educationalindex.html

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:01 pm

banana

Uh, you probably want to apply HTML or PHP to it rather that PHPBB code, right?

ICJ · Post by **ICJ** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:12 pm

Worm wrote:<font><b>banana</b></font>

Uh, you probably want to apply HTML or PHP to it rather that PHPBB code, right?

... Yes! Yes, I do. You were absolutely correct.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:51 pm

Alright, well, I figured out the bottling portion of it, as apparently all you need are these little cylinders of plastic and a hair dryer to melt it into the caps.

I made some sauces this weekend, one of which turned out nearly perfect, so I'm pretty close to having a sauce.

As you can see by the website in my .sig, the labeling/artwork end of the business is coming right along.

So. What's left? Legal crap.

Hmm.

Jack Straw · Post by **Jack Straw** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:47 pm

plastic sucks almost as much ass as it tastes like.

glass or stfu.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:26 pm

How do I order some of this?

I want four bottles. Three to use and then 1 to go in my collection of Cool Shit my Friends Made (next to the Lord of the Rings Atari 2600 Cartridge, natch).

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:26 pm

And I demand that the girl on the spicykat website take up the majority of the real estate on your bottles.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:59 pm

Jack Straw wrote:plastic sucks almost as much ass as it tastes like.

glass or stfu.

You are an idiot. The plastic is the sealant around the cap. The cap of the glass bottle. You douche.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:59 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:And I demand that the girl on the spicykat website take up the majority of the real estate on your bottles.

This will, of course, happen.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:59 pm

pinback wrote:
Jack Straw wrote:plastic sucks almost as much ass as it tastes like.

glass or stfu.
You are an idiot. The plastic is the sealant around the cap. The cap of the glass bottle. You douche.

Jack is obviously drunk.

Jack Straw · Post by **Jack Straw** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:13 am

Hahahahaha!! I started early yesterday, eh?

The old man and I hit the junkyard yet again because while working on my car I drank a couple beers, lost 2 bolts and broke another one. Do you see a pattern here? It's a vicious cycle.

we got all we needed from the 'yard, and on the way home passed a store which proclaimed "20% off all beer!!" - as if we needed an excuse.

Two 12 packs later, my Thing playing duties have been neglected, I have a splitting headache, and my ass feels like it's going to explode loose stool everywhere.

But I bonded! I swear!