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Dinner with Five Throughout History

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:03 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Here we go - the thread that has been YEARS in the making!

You get to pick five people throughout history to have dinner with. No more and no less. They can be dead, dying or living - it's all good. No fictional people, however, and no pets. I guess you can pick Secretariat, there's no law against it... but you can't pick your cat that has been dead for fifteen years, nor Optimus Prime.

Perhaps we will learn a little something about each other! Perhaps this will descend into name calling and hurt feelings. That's just it. You'll never really know!

Here's my list:

GEORGE ALEC EFFINGER, author (deceased)
RICKEY JACKSON, athlete
AARON GOLD, network engineer
FREDDIE MERCURY, muscian (deceased)
STEVE MERETZKY, author/designer

Aaron isn't actually famous, he is just a friend of mine that I know would help the evening go smoothly. You can put, I don't know, the painter Beksinski, Eugene Jarvis or Amelia Earhart there instead or something if there is a requirement for fame.

OK, now you guys!

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:28 pm
by ChainGangGuy
What will be served at your dinner party, Robb?

I hope Freddie Mercury saved room for pie.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:34 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
ChainGangGuy wrote:What will be served at your dinner party, Robb?

I hope Freddie Mercury saved room for pie.
Kashmiri Chicken
Garlic naan bread
Woodchuck brand hard cider
This Cream Pie My Mother Makes With A Graham Cracker Crust

And then a jar of alka seltzer & water because Effinger died of a bad stomach.

Also, my mother is visiting at the end of the week, so I will finally get a chance to try that pie, after not having had it in literally three years. Denizens, how often do YOU see your mothers???

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:52 pm
by AArdvark
I want to reply to this, I really do. I have to put some thought into it tho, Unlike the disjointed ramblings and non sequiters I usually just thow down.

(related topic: Just wrote a new song over the weekend.."Feces on the Fire")

well.. related to disjointed ramblings, not guests for dinner.


THE
GET BACK TO YOU
AARDVARK

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:54 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
AArdvark wrote:I want to reply to this, I really do. I have to put some thought into it tho, Unlike the disjointed ramblings and non sequiters I usually just thow down.

(related topic: Just wrote a new song over the weekend.."Feces on the Fire")

well.. related to disjointed ramblings, not guests for dinner.


THE
GET BACK TO YOU
AARDVARK
Who do I have to kill to hear this song?

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:00 pm
by 1
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Denizens, how often do YOU see your mothers???

1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:19 pm
by bruce
Thomas Pynchon
Dorothy Parker
Oscar Wilde
Catullus
Socrates

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:52 pm
by Vitriola
My mother is dead. Thank Christ. My 5 will come later. Robb's Mom is much better than mine was.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:13 pm
by Worm
You guys are pigeon holing this meal too much.
1. Takeru Kobayashi
2. Ben Franklin
3. Jesus (if he ever existed), Pinch-hitter: Reagen, I hear they're pretty much the same guy.
4. Miss Cleo
5. Buddha

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:17 pm
by Vitriola
Of course Jesus existed. There really isn't much doubt about his existence. He was a teacher and a philosopher, co-opted after his death to meet governmental needs. I'd hoist one with the J myself.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:39 pm
by Worm
As far as I know there are two documents that credit him as what the Christians worship. However there is no separate contemporary historical documents that substantiate him.

it makes absolutely no sense to co-opt a being whom had NO HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE for a messiah and falsify his past, it would be just as easy to simply invent the entire thing.

I don't see the reason to insist a being existed in name and stolen eastern philosophy only, when there only exists a tenuous relationship between that entity and the fictional character you calmly insist existed. If anything the argument is for a inspiration. How can you INSPIRE something, when your deeds and philosophy were not INSPIRATIONAL enough to warrant anything but the most minimum documentation.

Why do we, as christ-fucking baby-spiking pagans, need to go backwards and claim that there was a Jesus who bears NO RESEMBLANCE to the popular Jesus? What is the point to travel beyond all logic, common sense, and proof to somehow link that nonsense to actual events? He's either what is described in the bible, or he is nothing. I hate agnostic pussy footing.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:11 am
by ChainGangGuy
Its outbursts like that which will ruin the Dinner Party, Worm, or, at the very least, collapse the chocolate soufflé.

Here's my Dinner Party list so far:


Worm

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:29 am
by co
Worm wrote: He's either what is described in the bible, or he is nothing. I hate agnostic pussy footing.
yeah, AND people used to be ten feet tall and live for a hundred years like in the beginning of the bible. Of course there was someone named Jesus back then, half of all men were named Jesus back then. Certainly I don't believe that he was some supernatural "son of god" and when he died he raised into heaven and sat on the right hand of his father. I can believe that some of the nice stories about him might have some basis in fact, kind of like paul bunyon or other tall tales. He was a man, probably a leader of men, probably smarter and more charismatic than most but that's it.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:34 am
by Casual Observer
My five:
Mozart (if he was anything like the movie then he'd be a blast at dinner plus he can entertain with some music)
Da'vinci (what a smart and talented guy, love to talk to him)
WEB Dubois (to keep my fiance happy talking race all night)
Asimov (hope it doesn't make me a geek but I think he was cool)
George Carlin (when he was a bit younger though, I feel a bit sorry for him now that he's screwing up his jokes onstage a bit)

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:49 am
by Worm
co wrote:I can believe that some of the nice stories about him might have some basis in fact, kind of like paul bunyon or other tall tales.
I'm sorry, how does that qualify "Of course Paul Bunyon existed"?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:56 am
by co
Worm wrote:I'm sorry, how does that qualify "Of course Paul Bunyon existed"?
didn't you learn about "tall tales" in grade school? I think that was one of them. If not then substitute the oddessy or some shit like that. Of course the point is that Jesus was no more the son of god than you're someone who gets laid regularly.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:13 pm
by Worm
Yeah, my point being that you wouldn't go around saying "of course Paul Bunyon existed", regardless if you believe those tales simply could not be a total fabrication.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:18 pm
by co
no I don't think there was a 50 foot lumberjack with a blue ox, ok? Christianity is an overgrown cult, no more realistic than L. Ron Hubbard's religion - just has more history to it.

I'm not understanding your position in this, you must believe in Jesus if you would have him over to imaginary dinner so am I insulting your spiritual beliefs?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:27 pm
by Worm
urrr, what you're claiming is that no one could possibly come up with a Paul Bunyon directly from their mind. Therefore, beyond all lack of evidence there must have been an inspiration for Paul Bunyon.

This is the kind of non-thought that has got everyone soft balling the christers about Jesus. Regardless of the lack of independent historical verification, everyone acts like Jesus is historical fact.

He probably didn't exist. That's the joke. I'm using my temporal dimensional magic dinner to CHECK FOR MYSELF, you stupid fuck.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:32 pm
by co
Worm wrote:He's probably didn't exist. That's the joke. I'm using my temporal dimensional magic dinner to CHECK FOR MYSELF, you stupid fuck.
great thinking, genius. Though, I think even the jews admit there was a guy named Jesus but just don't want to hear about how their ancestors had him killed (or something).