by Tdarcos » Sun May 17, 2020 1:43 am
I still don't get it. You show pictures of other pizza you claim are New York-style pizzas, versus Jerry's, which you claim isn't, despite the fact the pictures make them look the same. None of you has either handled nor eaten a Jerry's so you can't claim it fails on taste, mouth feel, smell, appearance, bending, folding, water content, or any other experiential reason. I'm sure none of you has worked at one so you don't know how they are made. In short, all of you are "speaking ex cathedra from your asshole," and really don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Sort of like the pope, whenever he says some brainless, moronic comment, which they all do, often.
Let's be real simple: what is the difference? Objectively, what is missing from Jerry's that is present in "real" New York-style pizza? What is present in Jerry's that is missing from "real" New York-style pizza?
In one of the Dirty Harry films, Harry defines exactly what is, in his opinion, a reasonable hot dog: "Nobody, I mean nobody, puts ketchup on a hot dog." Probably he disagrees on taste reasons. But millions would disagree with Harry; despite some people saying so, not just 12-year-olds put ketchup on a hot dog, adults do. (I don't, unless there is nothing else available and can't eat it bare.). If I'm going to put condiments on a hot dog, it's chili, cheese, and sauerkraut. (No pepperoni, however.) These are all opinions, statements made which are not provably true or false, and may have nothing to support them except personal preference.
Ben says a hometown pizza store there in Ohio does make real New York style pizza, but has not stated what's the difference.
In short, you say the particular one fromJerry's fails to reach the standard, but can't give objective reasons why it isn't.
Maybe we should start with something simple: what are the defining characteristics of a new York-style pizza? What must it have, and what must it not have?
This whole argument reminds me of one of the most weaksauce Christian reasons there is a God: "Look at the trees." Yeah, living things born from millions of years of automatic processes of finding the best way to survive and breed. Does not prove a conscious entity or intelligence.
Your claims that Jerry's pizza is not New York-Style have been lacking evidence. And Hitchens' Razor applies here too: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Ordinary claims require ordinary evidence.
Claims made without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.
As you haven't provided even trivial evidence...
I still don't get it. You show pictures of other pizza you claim [i]are[/i] New York-style pizzas, versus Jerry's, which you claim [i]isn't[/i], despite the fact the pictures make them look the same. None of you has either handled nor eaten a Jerry's so you can't claim it fails on taste, mouth feel, smell, appearance, bending, folding, water content, or any other experiential reason. I'm sure none of you has worked at one so you don't know how they are made. In short, all of you are "speaking [i]ex cathedra[/i] from your asshole," and really don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Sort of like the pope, whenever he says some brainless, moronic comment, which they all do, often.
Let's be real simple: what is the difference? Objectively, what is missing from Jerry's that is present in "real" New York-style pizza? What is present in Jerry's that is missing from "real" New York-style pizza?
In one of the [i]Dirty Harry[/i] films, Harry defines exactly what is, in his opinion, a reasonable hot dog: "Nobody, I mean nobody, puts ketchup on a hot dog." Probably he disagrees on taste reasons. But millions would disagree with Harry; despite some people saying so, not just 12-year-olds put ketchup on a hot dog, adults do. (I don't, unless there is nothing else available and can't eat it bare.). If I'm going to put condiments on a hot dog, it's chili, cheese, and sauerkraut. (No pepperoni, however.) These are all opinions, statements made which are not provably true or false, and may have nothing to support them except personal preference.
Ben says a hometown pizza store there in Ohio [i]does[/i] make real New York style pizza, but has not stated what's the difference.
In short, you say the particular one fromJerry's fails to reach the standard, but can't give objective reasons [i]why[/i] it isn't.
Maybe we should start with something simple: what are the defining characteristics of a new York-style pizza? What must it have, and what must it [i]not[/i] have?
This whole argument reminds me of one of the most weaksauce Christian reasons there is a God: "Look at the trees." Yeah, living things born from millions of years of automatic processes of finding the best way to survive and breed. Does not prove a conscious entity or intelligence.
Your claims that Jerry's pizza is not New York-Style have been lacking evidence. And Hitchens' Razor applies here too: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Ordinary claims require ordinary evidence.
Claims made without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.
As you haven't provided even trivial evidence...