by Tdarcos » Sun Jan 15, 2023 7:08 pm
raecoffey wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:07 pm
Yeah, a lot of people are 'intrigued' by murder and murderers, but never the victim...
As probably someone said, "Because the dead don't speak." Combine with what is said about the results of wars, "History is written by the victors." In the case of a murder, while it may be callous to say it, in the case of a murder, the killer is the 'victor' of the encounter. It takes extra effort to tell the victim's story, and often it only happens in the context of reporting how the killer was caught.
raecoffey wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:07 pm
If they had lived through what I did, they would feel very differently.
Thus, the effort in some cases to get people to 'walk a mile in the shoes' of the victim (or victims, when it's an issue of multiple killings) in order to raise empathy for them.
raecoffey wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:07 pm
There is a group run by parents of murdered children called M.I.N.E. or murder is not entertainment. They take the sentiment a bit too far in my opinion...
There is a (presumably fake) bumper sticker quote about the end of Operation Desert Storm back in the 1990s, after Iraq was kicked out of Kuwait: "Why did CNN cancel that really great Gulf War show?"
Technically, war is just legalized murder, since the soldiers on the other side probably didn't attack those fighting, theor family, or in (probably too many cases), their country. Yet there is probably millions of hours of video reenacting various wars and killing, from
300 (Leonidas murders that messenger, by kicking him into the pit); to any of the films about gladiators and people thrown to the lions in Roman Empire reenactments; to
The Longest Day with Allied soldiers mowed down by the hundreds by the Axis during WWOO in glorious full color for the entertainment of the audience; and
Saving Private Ryan of the same Genre. And the Korean War, Vietnam War, invasion of Grenada, etc. All the films on these and other wars feature sometimes grisly murders and killings, for audience entertainment.
For plain out-and-out murder for entertainment, there is the 1970s
The Mechanic with Charles Bronson as a mafia hitman, the movie is famous as having the longest movie opening with no dialog, as we watch as he sets up the conditions to cause a man's apartment in a fleabag hotel to explode, then does so remotely in a glorious fireball incinerating the guy and almost certainly nearby innocent bystanders. Oh, and let's not forget the
John Wick franchise, where a man whose dog he got from his now dead wife, was killed by some punk, so, in retaliation he proceeds to murder dozens of people to kill the guy, then in the later films, murder lots more people. And why is it popular? So we can watch Keanu Reeves slaughter people in new and exciting ways!
To put it bluntly, millions of dollars are spent to produce films, TV shows, and other media, where the main purpose is to entertain the audience with various murders, and the producers of those shows glorifying murder make billions. The public, in general, has shown with their entertainment dollars that murder is an exciting and enjoyable form of entertainment, bless their black hearts.
[quote=raecoffey post_id=133821 time=1673831255 user_id=2754]
Yeah, a lot of people are 'intrigued' by murder and murderers, but never the victim...[/quote]
As probably someone said, "Because the dead don't speak." Combine with what is said about the results of wars, "History is written by the victors." In the case of a murder, while it may be callous to say it, in the case of a murder, the killer is the 'victor' of the encounter. It takes extra effort to tell the victim's story, and often it only happens in the context of reporting how the killer was caught.
[quote=raecoffey post_id=133821 time=1673831255 user_id=2754]
If they had lived through what I did, they would feel very differently. [/quote]
Thus, the effort in some cases to get people to 'walk a mile in the shoes' of the victim (or victims, when it's an issue of multiple killings) in order to raise empathy for them.
[quote=raecoffey post_id=133821 time=1673831255 user_id=2754]
There is a group run by parents of murdered children called M.I.N.E. or murder is not entertainment. They take the sentiment a bit too far in my opinion...
[/quote]
There is a (presumably fake) bumper sticker quote about the end of Operation Desert Storm back in the 1990s, after Iraq was kicked out of Kuwait: "Why did CNN cancel that really great Gulf War show?"
Technically, war is just legalized murder, since the soldiers on the other side probably didn't attack those fighting, theor family, or in (probably too many cases), their country. Yet there is probably millions of hours of video reenacting various wars and killing, from [i]300[/i] (Leonidas murders that messenger, by kicking him into the pit); to any of the films about gladiators and people thrown to the lions in Roman Empire reenactments; to [i]The Longest Day[/i] with Allied soldiers mowed down by the hundreds by the Axis during WWOO in glorious full color for the entertainment of the audience; and [i]Saving Private Ryan[/i] of the same Genre. And the Korean War, Vietnam War, invasion of Grenada, etc. All the films on these and other wars feature sometimes grisly murders and killings, for audience entertainment.
For plain out-and-out murder for entertainment, there is the 1970s [i]The Mechanic[/i] with Charles Bronson as a mafia hitman, the movie is famous as having the longest movie opening with no dialog, as we watch as he sets up the conditions to cause a man's apartment in a fleabag hotel to explode, then does so remotely in a glorious fireball incinerating the guy and almost certainly nearby innocent bystanders. Oh, and let's not forget the [i]John Wick[/i] franchise, where a man whose dog he got from his now dead wife, was killed by some punk, so, in retaliation he proceeds to murder dozens of people to kill the guy, then in the later films, murder lots more people. And why is it popular? So we can watch Keanu Reeves slaughter people in new and exciting ways!
To put it bluntly, millions of dollars are spent to produce films, TV shows, and other media, where the main purpose is to entertain the audience with various murders, and the producers of those shows glorifying murder make billions. The public, in general, has shown with their entertainment dollars that murder is an exciting and enjoyable form of entertainment, bless their black hearts.