[quote="Casual Observer" post_id=143857 time=1720476803 user_id=77]
[quote=Jizaboz post_id=143850 time=1720403851 user_id=910]I most certainly was given “the talk” as a teen and it didn’t even prevent me from nearly being shot by a state trooper at age 18.
[/quote]Wow, story please please please.
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I was 18 or 19 at the time. Me and 3 others were driving back home from a Korn show (their 2nd album was about to come out) all piled into a 1981 Volkswagen rabbit diesel I used to have. It was about 2 am.

We had made it all the way back via I-40 from the city the show was in, and turned off onto the exit for the town we all live in. I don’t even make it half a block when someone jackass gets right on my ass with bright lights. Don’t know who it is and just continue to drive between 35 and 40 mph. Then, blue lights.

I pull into a nearby car dealership parking lot and wait for the cop to approach. Another car arrives. I realize these aren’t cops at all. They are state troopers. Very large black trooper walks up to my car and asks where I’m coming from. I’m honest and he asks if he knows why I was pulled to which I reply I don’t. He says I was swerving within my lane. Huh. OK. Probably had something to do with the fact he was right on my ass blinding me.

So then of course he asks me to get out of the car. He’s standing maybe 8 feet away from me with a flashlight pointed at me as his partner or whoever approaches. Asks if I have any weapons, etc. I’m standing there wearing a large ski jacket that’s unzipped with my hands out when one of the them asks what’s in my pocket.

I very slowly look down and start to open my pocket because honestly at the time I forgot what I had in there. It was at that moment one of them yells “grenade!” And the other yells “freeze! Stop” and both of them have their guns whipped out pointed at me. For a split second I legit thought I was gonna be shot. Then one of them edges over to me still pointing the gun and looks closer at the pocket at the deadly explosive I have in this large coat pocket; a can of Pepsi.

Then his partner, a USMC looking buzzcut white dude puts me in his car to ask if I’ve been drinking or using drugs. Told him no on both counts (and the latter was a lie). He does a brief search and doesn’t even find the large blunt in my inside pocket.

I also got harassed a couple of times but that is definitely at my top of the list for why I don’t trust police.

[quote=Jizaboz post_id=143850 time=1720403851 user_id=910]
I recall a while back maybe after the Trevon Martin shooting some fucking idiot talking about “non black parents don’t have to have THE TALK with their kids to keep from being killed by cops.” Excuse me? What?

I most certainly was given “the talk” as a teen and it didn’t even prevent me from nearly being shot by a state trooper at age 18.
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My kids know DAMN STRAIGHT that if they are engaged by a cop, you move very slowly, talk very clearly, and do exactly what they ask.

[quote=Jizaboz post_id=143850 time=1720403851 user_id=910]I most certainly was given “the talk” as a teen and it didn’t even prevent me from nearly being shot by a state trooper at age 18.
[/quote]Wow, story please please please.

I recall a while back maybe after the Trevon Martin shooting some fucking idiot talking about “non black parents don’t have to have THE TALK with their kids to keep from being killed by cops.” Excuse me? What?

I most certainly was given “the talk” as a teen and it didn’t even prevent me from nearly being shot by a state trooper at age 18.

I believe he was thinking himself a a bad-ass because he had a piece on him, even if it was a bb gun.

[quote="(ᵕ˵ ૩ᵕ)━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ" post_id=143789 time=1720062567 user_id=2765]
The truly scary thought in this thread is how normalized Da King's views are regarding the police and how the assumption of guilt justifies a literal death sentence.
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The TRULY scary thought in this head is that you think that point of this is to say it's OK to kill kids. Never once did I say that.

I am simply pointing out all of the decisions that one can make to keep oneself OUT of that position.

There were several decisions that the kid could have made before the police had to make a single decision, and any of those would have kept him out of harm's way.

[quote="(ᵕ˵ ૩ᵕ)━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ" post_id=143789 time=1720062567 user_id=2765]
The truly scary thought in this thread is how normalized Da King's views are regarding the police and how the assumption of guilt justifies a literal death sentence.
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What do you think should happen if someone points a realistic (or real) firearm at a police officer?

[quote="(ᵕ˵ ૩ᵕ)━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ" post_id=143789 time=1720062567 user_id=2765]
The truly scary thought in this thread is how normalized Da King's views are regarding the police and how the assumption of guilt justifies a literal death sentence.
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People simply disagreeing with you shouldn’t be scary in the least. He didn’t agree with the one detail I pointed out either but it’s not like I give a shit.

The truly scary thought in this thread is how normalized Da King's views are regarding the police and how the assumption of guilt justifies a literal death sentence.

[quote="(ᵕ˵ ૩ᵕ)━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ" post_id=143757 time=1719894515 user_id=2765]
First off, your first point is moot because these children didn't commit any crimes.[/quote]

The children were being questioned because they matched the description of two suspects who had just committed a burglary.

Any my point is NOT moot at all.

Don't commit a crime. (Maybe they did, maybe they didn't).
Dont run away from the cops when they say they are going to frisk you. (They did.)
Dont carry a BB gun that looks like a legit 9mm gun. (They did.)

Don't do ANY of those three things, and the kid is still alive.

[quote]Where did you even pull that information from? [/quote]
What are you questioning?

[quote]"Gun" or not though, some dumbass Cop decided that a RESTRAINED CHILD BEING PUNCHED IN THE FACE was supposedly enough of a threat that an aimed shot in the chest was called for.[/quote]

The kid displayed the gun to the cop as he was being chased. The puts the cop in a position to make a split second decision on the next step. Bad shit happens when people are put in that position.

[quote]Let me also reiterate this one more time: the child HADN'T COMMITTED A CRIME.[/quote]

That is irrelevant. He ran from cops during an investigation and display something that looked like a real 9mm gun.

DONT DO THAT SHIT AND YOU LIVE.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=143758 time=1719895388 user_id=3]
[quote="(ᵕ˵ ૩ᵕ)━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ" post_id=143746 time=1719885900 user_id=2765]
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=143743 time=1719879989 user_id=3]
How realistic is this BB gun?[/quote]

WAKA WAKA WAKA

[img]https://images.nicindustries.com/cerakote/projects/78921/mr-mrs-pacman-themed-glock-43-cerakoted-using-usmc-red-bright-white-and-corvette-yellow.jpg?1652735426&size=450[/img]

https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery/78921/mr-mrs-pacman-themed-glock-43-cerakoted-using-usmc-red-bright-white-and-corvette-yellow
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Inky, Blinky, Bonnie and Clyde
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lol

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[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=143743 time=1719879989 user_id=3]
How realistic is this BB gun?[/quote]

WAKA WAKA WAKA

[img]https://images.nicindustries.com/cerakote/projects/78921/mr-mrs-pacman-themed-glock-43-cerakoted-using-usmc-red-bright-white-and-corvette-yellow.jpg?1652735426&size=450[/img]

https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery/78921/mr-mrs-pacman-themed-glock-43-cerakoted-using-usmc-red-bright-white-and-corvette-yellow
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Inky, Blinky, Bonnie and Clyde

First off, your first point is moot because these children didn't commit any crimes. Where did you even pull that information from? "Gun" or not though, some dumbass Cop decided that a RESTRAINED CHILD BEING PUNCHED IN THE FACE was supposedly enough of a threat that an aimed shot in the chest was called for.

If your decision making process puts the capability of A CHILD armed or not against three fully armed and armored trained Police Officers as enough of a threat to aimbot him in the chest, you are in the wrong.

Let me also reiterate this one more time: the child HADN'T COMMITTED A CRIME.

If any of those dead eyed meat popsicles are able to walk back into the station and not receive immediate commendation by their colleagues for murdering an innocent child, that is officially bullshit. Those aren't men, those are assholes who are so incompetent that they shouldn't even be legally allowed access to a water pistol.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=143743 time=1719879989 user_id=3]
How realistic is this BB gun?
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Picture available here. https://www.wifr.com/2024/06/30/officer-fatally-shoots-13-year-old-boy-carrying-replica-gun-police-say/

Pretty fucking realistic, especially in the dark, when law enforcement is expected to make a snap decision.

[quote=Jizaboz post_id=143724 time=1719808270 user_id=910]
Kid made extremely stupid actions but then you shoot him AFTER multiple officers have him tackled? Someone sounds a little trigger happpy
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The situation is completely avoidable the followed ANY of suggestions 1, 2 OR 3.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=143743 time=1719879989 user_id=3]
How realistic is this BB gun?[/quote]

WAKA WAKA WAKA

[img]https://images.nicindustries.com/cerakote/projects/78921/mr-mrs-pacman-themed-glock-43-cerakoted-using-usmc-red-bright-white-and-corvette-yellow.jpg?1652735426&size=450[/img]

https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery/78921/mr-mrs-pacman-themed-glock-43-cerakoted-using-usmc-red-bright-white-and-corvette-yellow

5. Do not instinctively grab your shorts while being forced to crawl towards a police Officer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8

6. Do not legally own, carry, or touch a gun when confronting a suspected burglar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuLFiTCA2pQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVK_pp43Hg8

7. Do not live in the United States.
https://www.inquest.org.uk/fatal-police-shootings
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

8. Do not own a blind and deaf 13 lb dog.
https://aldf.org/article/lawsuit-filed-over-police-shooting-of-blind-deaf-dog-in-missouri/

How realistic is this BB gun?

Did his mom put it on Offerup?

It makes the 13 year olds who did NOT do #1-4 able to move on and procreate, thus assuring an evolutionary advantage over the number of 13 year olds that did (or will) do #1-4. Of course it will take thousands of years for any visible changes to appear in the fossil record so patience is needed on our part.


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That is a fucked up and stupid situation altogether.

Kid made extremely stupid actions but then you shoot him AFTER multiple officers have him tackled? Someone sounds a little trigger happpy