Marvel's Epic line submission site

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:45 am

It's here.

Hmm, hmm, hmm.

I think an alternate summer goal of mine once I move into my (hopefully) new place will be to submit something and get one of those rejection letters. Why not, eh?

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:08 am

I think this is my chance to make a super hero with proctokinesis.
Is the one "Trouble" and already made one? Or have none been made yet?

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:37 am

"Trouble" is a comic about how young Aunt May, young Uncle Ben and young Peter Parker's real parents all had some hijinks or some such thing when they were young. Why they have two pieces of jailbait on the cover is something I haven't quite researched.

I don't believe it was conceived through the submission process.

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:29 pm

Damn it, Robb. Now I've got this outline for a Toad date-rape comic running through my head when I'm supposed to be coding my damn game.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:17 pm

Toad does seem like somewhat of a date rapist, doesn't he?

The only idea that came to my mind was that it might be neat if there were a comic about a group of previously-established Marvel denizens who worked to try to remove superpowers from those people who have them that no longer want them. There are a few characters out there who hate their powers and a few characters out there that have managed to "control" their own powers. So they'd be a good starting point.

It does kind of fail the "movie" test, which I think is what Jemas really cares about. So I dunno. And I have absolutely no illusions that my first time out trying to put together a script would be anything that anyone at Marvel would want to read. But it may be nice to try, just to finally see if the process is actually something I'd ever want to do with my life. If the process sucks, well, that's one less dream I need to worry about chasing.

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:42 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Toad does seem like somewhat of a date rapist, doesn't he?

Well, I mean we have herein a character who spent the bulk of his early career stalking Scarlet Witch and who, in his latest incarnation (so I've been told) secrets a mind control agent from his tongue. I mean, shit, it's like they're just begging for someone with low enough standards to put two and two together there.

I can actually picture the scene in my head:

Toad is in some bar in New York, gets shot down by some woman. He persists for a bit, to no avail. Finally, you see him glance furtively to see if anyone's looking, turns, and then *THWAP*! Prehensile tongue for you! In the face! I figure I'd instruct the artist to make the left over saliva disturbingly reminiscent of a money shot as the girl looks back with glazed-over eyes. Of course, if ChainGang's article is any indication, this is not the storyline to sell Marvel comics, but really, even I have no ireal desire to take it from there to it's natural... um... climax.

I plotted it out as him getting her as far as her car, before something stupid would happen, like he'd get distracted and she'd come out of the trance for a moment and he'd lose his nerve. Then that would be the essential "lowest point" for the character at the start of the book. It's like, okay, I'm a mutant, I can jump really high, I've been to, y'know, outer-space and what the hell, really do I have to put on my cosmic resume here?

SO then you'd have a couple issues of him trying some petty capers and getting thwarted, soundly, by C-llist heroes, before he accidentally does something to foul up the Kingpin, and then you'd have your standard man on the run on the road to redemption tale and Great Ceasar's Fuck I'm starting to sound like JB now (no offense intended to the secret agent in question), so I'll stop.

Anyway, that's what's been running through my brain for the past couple hours.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 8:14 pm

Jesus. You weren't kidding. You really did think that through.

I could never muster up any sympathy for the Toad. I didn't like Quicksilver either. This is probably because at age 11 or whatever I wanted the Witch in question to be MINE MINE MINE.

I was happy to see her with either the Vision or Wonder Man, however. Both are fine, upstanding young men. Androids. Irradiated actor dude. Or, whatever the hell they are, they are upstanding.

I think my preference of who she ended up with would go like this, though:

Real Vision > Wonder Man
Wonder Man > That ghost-like Vision that Byrne made

In other news: did they explain why the Scarlett Witch got back with the Vision after she was with Wonder Man? The Vision apparently had Wonder Man's brainwaves imparted upon him or some such horseshit. So when she finally got together with the real guy and not the copy, I see no way of writing her back together with the Vision.

The fact that I even care really speaks volumes as to what is wrong with me, but whattyagonnado.

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 8:36 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Jesus. You weren't kidding. You really did think that through.

When an idea pops into my head, it just kinda gets lodged in there for a while.

I could never muster up any sympathy for the Toad.

Hell, he's a creepy disfunctional with horrendous self-esteem. Even as a kid I knew I had more in common with him then, say, Captain America.

It's funny, I never really mapped romantically to any comics females as a kid. I was the right age for it, but I think in those days Marvel had kind of pushed the tits and spandex so hard, that none of the women really stood at all from their comrades. I mean, Warlock and the Infinity watch had Gamora (wait, that's the flying turtle, but her name was something like that) who was a super-ninja who dressed skimpily and had green skin. Then the X-Men had Psyclocke, who was a telepathic super-ninja who dressed skimpily and had blue hair. Hell, they had fawking Invisible Woman running around with a strategically placed "cleavage 4" cutout in a costume that was practically a teddy. Sure, if I was desperate for wank material, this was fine and dandy, but it wasn't like I was fretting constantly over their fates, <s>narmean</s> know what I mean?

In other news: did they explain why the Scarlett Witch got back with the Vision after she was with Wonder Man? The Vision apparently had Wonder Man's brainwaves imparted upon him or some such horseshit. So when she finally got together with the real guy and not the copy, I see no way of writing her back together with the Vision.

The fact that I even care really speaks volumes as to what is wrong with me, but whattyagonnado.

I thought she was dead, at this point.