Which iteration of Star Trek was your favorite?

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:50 am

Surely some of you enjoy some TREK!

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:48 am

If I had to come up with a list of my favorite episodes, it would probably span all the shows. But man, I can put almost any episode of the original series on and let it do its thing and it is calming, interesting and fun. It LOOKS great, too, the primary colors of the crew is something they have tried so hard to get around and who knows why.

I like Chris Pine but William Shatner played Kirk with an aloofness in management that -- well, I have no idea if it was intentional. Pine is the coolest guy at the party/college/workplace who is everyone's friend. Shatner's Kirk can come down on somebody and then share a joke with a crew member down the hall. I have a lot more respect and understanding for Shatner's Kirk the older I get.

And of course Spock is the best character they've ever had.

RealNC · Post by **RealNC** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:41 am

DS 9. Best characters, best story, best setting.

RealNC · Post by **RealNC** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:42 am

PS: I watched them all except Discovery.

bryanb · Post by **bryanb** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:57 pm

I feel like TNG came the closest to Gene Roddenberry's near utopian vision, but I have to agree with Robb and most of the poll voters so far in picking the original series as my favorite. I felt it had an edge to it that TNG often lacked. It made sense to me given that the series is about a crew traveling together through space for long periods of time and experiencing innumerable high stress situations that tensions and resentments would bubble up often. A starship is potentially the worst work environment imaginable. If there's someone you can't stand to work with, you can't just quit and never see them again. The same people are always going to be giving you orders. You can't ever defuse the tension by walking out the door and getting some fresh air. I don't believe TOS even had a holodeck so you couldn't even do a good job of pretending to get some fresh air. It would be like life on a submarine if submarines were constantly being attacked by aliens and if every part was built by the same guys who did the Kursk.

Is Spock fully prepared to take over for Kirk at a moment's notice if the captain starts messing up? Of course he is. He's had that plan prepared since day 3, and you know he must get tempted to use the Vulcan nerve pinch on Kirk dozens of times a day. And those guys probably get along better than almost everyone else on the Enterprise. If you take Sulu's inhibitions down a notch, does he want to cut up half the crew? Of course he wants to cut up half the crew. Uhura thinks he's a creep and who knows what kinds of racist bullshit he has to deal with on a daily basis. No wonder his mom told him to never sign up to be the only Asian man aboard a starship.

I also felt like TOS gave the writers a ton of creative freedom and was less concerned with faithful world building and devotion to lore than later Star Trek series did. That gave you a real sense of not knowing what to expect or where the show might go. It could get crazy or silly, for sure, but that was part of the fun. And I say that as someone who generally appreciates world building and lore. In TOS, the looseness and creative freedom just happened to work out for the best.

One thing TNG was definitely superior at was character development. Granted, they did have a lot more episodes to do it. Still, Uhura and Chekov were in lots of TOS episodes. More could have been done with those characters. While Sulu and Scotty were given more distinct personalities, their inner lives are explored a lot less than characters like Geordi and Troi in TNG. On the other hand, Kirk and Spock are more interesting than anyone on TNG in my opinion. Also, if Wil Wheaton had been alive and old enough to be cast on the original series, I'm pretty sure he would have been a red shirt and been killed in his first episode.

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:12 am

I am an original Star Trek guy, but I liked TNG as well after things got rolling. First season of TNG was pretty stupid when it first came out, but things got better and to this day I like the general feel and anesthetics of this series. Bryan is right about the characters. Hated Beta at first then found him cool. Always liked Warf though. I'll spare you going into every character.

Voyager.. as soon as Jane Way appeared and started talking, my mom and I groaned. Awful. Just awful. We agreed it wasn't the concept of a female captain we had a problem with.. the problem was her.

Deep Space Nine I recall liking for the newer effects and settings, but I like Babylon 5 (Not Star Trek but pretty damn close) a little better in some regards.

Tried to watch a little of Discovery but it is lame compared to the older stuff.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:18 am

Jizaboz wrote:Beta

Jizaboz wrote:Warf

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:31 pm

pinback wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:18 am
Jizaboz wrote:Beta

Jizaboz wrote:Warf

Data. Worf. Fucking auto correct.

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:32 pm

Also Seth Myers or whatever his fucking name is sucks.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:12 pm

Mike Myers?

Seth from Arkadia Retrocade?

WHO?

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:26 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:12 pm Mike Myers?

Seth from Arkadia Retrocade?

WHO?

Pretty sure Mike Myers killed a lot of people in Haddenfield Illinois and stood by while George W Bush didn’t care about black people.

uruzrune · Post by **uruzrune** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:46 am

RealNC wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:41 am DS 9. Best characters, best story, best setting.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:47 am

Wait, did we actually turn this into an anti-Seth Myers thread? Seth Myers is great. Maybe this should be a different thread.

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:47 pm

Did Seth Meyers wear a red shirt?

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ONE CAN HOPE
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pinback · Post by **pinback** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:13 pm

Okay, who picked Voyager? If this poll had a "joke vote", that was it.

uruzrune · Post by **uruzrune** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:22 pm

Voyager was still better than Enterprise.

I said it, fight me.

Tdarcos · Post by **Tdarcos** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:34 am

uruzrune wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:22 pm Voyager was still better than Enterprise.

I said it, fight me.

Uruzrune, "the first rule of Fight Club is that you don't talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight club is that you do not talk about fight Club!"

Jonsey, I voed for Voyager.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:38 am

Uruzrune, "the first rule of Fight Club is that you don't talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight club is that you do not talk about fight Club!"

Oh god he's going to put this in every single post now isn't he.

Jonsey, I voed for Voyager.

Paul, I was the one who asked who "voed" for it.

So far you've ruined every thread in this base and are repeating yourself and getting everything wrong on top of it.

Get your shit together, please.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:38 am

Come on Tdarcos, clean it up over here.

uruzrune · Post by **uruzrune** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:15 pm

The fuck does Fight Club have to do with anything?