I really liked The Two Towers

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 4:46 pm

I didn't write anything after I saw it originally, but I should say that I thought it was pretty good. My understanding is that they ruined many of the characters in the translation from book to movie. I gave myself 365 days to read TTT, and only got 100 pages through it in all that time. And 100 of those 100 pages were done during my layover in NYC before I finally flew home.

I was going to stick it to all those who felt let down by the movie by being the annoying guy on the internet who engaged in such behavior, but then someone mentioned equivalent changes in the Dragonlance books, which I did read, and which I did enjoy, and which were really (of course) cribbed from JRR's source material. But apparently changing Mirafirir or whatshisface there, Sean Bean's brother, was like making, say, Sturm not so dour in Dragonlance. So I can appreciate where you Tolkien peeps are coming from.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 11:36 pm

Well, since the first movie blew, I just sort of assumed that this one would too.

Knocking Ben off Bases Gu · Mon Dec 23, 2002 11:56 pm

Ben wrote:Well, since the first movie blew, I just sort of assumed that this one would too.

I've got nothing, here.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 11:58 pm

Ewww, there's Gu all over this thread.

(AHAHHAA)

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue Dec 24, 2002 3:01 am

What didn't you like about the first one? And please don't just say "hobbits."

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Tue Dec 24, 2002 3:59 am

Long. Boring. Uninteresting, one-dimensional characters. Arcade-game visuals.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue Dec 24, 2002 4:25 am

Yeah, but didn't you like all the close-ups of the ring in somebody's hand?? The extended DVD has 25 more minutes of that, bro!

Admit it, you secretly yearn to be the meat in a Legolas-Gimli sandwich.

Worm of the rings · Post by **Worm of the rings** » Wed Dec 25, 2002 11:09 pm

I wanted to read the first book before I saw the movie and I ended up waiting until a week before it and finishing only like about 200 pages in one day of suspension in school.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:25 am

What did they suspend you for? I smell harrasment.

Snide Clyde · Post by **Snide Clyde** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 2:38 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I smell harrasment.

Yeah, you just can't spell harrassment.

James · Post by **James** » Fri Dec 27, 2002 6:40 pm

Heheheh hohohoho

Nah, they expel your ass for harrassment know-a-days. This one kid I knew -- total asshole piece of shit -- got expelled for sexual harrassment and ended up arrested. I got suspended -- in school suspension mind you -- for never ever signing into my one study hall after a month of promising I would the next day they gave me ISS(In School Suspension) and I read ... lemmme check ... 266 pages of The Lord o the Rings ... haven't touched it since.

The Adventures of Links · Tue Jan 21, 2003 12:57 am

Hobbiton, It's On!

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:45 pm

Okay, just so this movie. Ten million billion times better than the book. It seems that Tolkien, like Shakespeare, is much better performed than read.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 12:22 am

Debaser wrote:Okay, just so this movie. Ten million billion times better than the book. It seems that Tolkien, like Shakespeare, is much better performed than read.

They are making me wait until November to go get the thing on DVD. I don't like to wait.

Sure, there is the straight-flick version of the thing, but who has the time to go deal with that sort of thing? I, much like Peter Jackson filming the thing, need EXTRAS.

Additionally, if there is a theatre within 100 miles of lovely downtown Longmont playing all three movies back-to-back for 11 hours when RoTK comes out, I am freaking there.

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 12:32 am

Y'know, I didn't really care for Fellowship. The pacing was horrible and the characters were all pretty kinda just there. Which, by the way, was precisely my problem with the source material.

This second one went a long way towards giving everyone some sort of defining characteristics that made you maybe kinda give a shit about what happened to them, and I think the actors deserve a lot of the credit for that. Plant a self-satisfied smirk on Legolas' face every once in a while, and suddenly he's not just "the elf" anymore.

Plus, all those monologues. I couldn't say whether they were ripped straight from the book or not as it's been years since the last time I've tried to plow through them, but I couldn't imagine trying to pay attention through one of those without an actual performance.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 12:41 am

Gollum's soliloquy was just magic.

Hey, do you know when Walrustitty got up to take a leak during the Two Towers? Actually, you possibly do as I mention it everytime I mention that scene.

Sam's bit at the very end was pretty good too, along those lines. It was as if Jackson thought that just possibly everyone wasn't going to be whipped up into a frenzy waiting for the next one, so he has Rudy there give the best performance in a single, given scene of his life.

They don't make 'em like that much these days.

Jack Straw · Post by **Jack Straw** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:38 am

Debaser wrote:Y'know, I didn't really care for Fellowship.

I didn't care for either of them. Both of them were wayy too long and to me boring most of the time. It took me 3 times before I could sit through the entirety of the first one. Second one was better but again, way too long. I've never read the book but I remember that motherfucker hulking in my pop's bookshelf growing up.. big red THICK book that I'm sure is too long also. The massive size of the book combined with the microscopic type was enough to have me never read it. Oh, that, and it was MY DAD'S BOOK.
The first LOTR videogame based on the movies was generic bullshit, but the second really holds its own, given it's a movie franchise. That game is gangster, especially for free. Black Box kicks ass.
RobB, I know you don't like racing games but you need to get NFS:HP2 for PS2. It's so jaggy I feel like i'm cutting my hands every time I play but the game is so good it doesn't even matter. Black Box pulled out the stops and PC/XBox/GC got the shaft with some bullshit dev. When are you comin to ROC again? I miss ya man! <sniff>

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:48 am

Jack Straw wrote:
Debaser wrote:Y'know, I didn't really care for Fellowship.
I didn't care for either of them. Both of them were wayy too long and to me boring most of the time. It took me 3 times before I could sit through the entirety of the first one. Second one was better but again, way too long. I've never read the book but I remember that motherfucker hulking in my pop's bookshelf growing up.. big red THICK book that I'm sure is too long also. The massive size of the book combined with the microscopic type was enough to have me never read it.

I have a paper back of Fellowship that can't be more than 300-500 pages long paper back. That isn't very bad. It's no novel or anything. Maybe that book was all four (or five) of the Volumes. Though the book is a bit of a drudge after awhile. I'm not a very good reader either.

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 1:01 pm

In the edition I have, none of the trilogy breaks the 450 barrier. And if you skip over all the fucking songs, I think that'd probably take it down to maybe 1000 pages total. So, yeah, really not that bad. But, yeah, drudgery is a pretty good word for trying to actually read the entirety of the damn things.

You know, I'm honestly surprised no one here has leapt to defend these books defense, yet?

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 1:47 pm

Debaser wrote:You know, I'm honestly surprised no one here has leapt to defend these books defense, yet?

We don't cotton to "readers" 'ere in Jolt Country.