Fallacy of dawn scoring (spoilers)

Morningstar · Post by **Morningstar** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:20 am

Please do not read further if you do not want to be spoiled in your pride to solve all puzzles in 'Fallacy of Dawn' yourself ...
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Hi, has anybody succeeded to get al 100 points in the game 'Fallacy of Dawn'? Even with Boric getting to tatoo Leandra I only get up to 90 in the end. Which tasks actually increase your score? I did
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(Big Spoilers below!).

defuse the bomb
meet porn and clara
spend the night with clara
get the money for the gun from video store ($)
buy the gun
do the morgue ($)
get the stolen movie ($)
take out thug with shades ($$)
take out failed romero ($$)
get money as Anthony Maradi ($$)
take out (thug and) Leandra for Borick ($)
take out hitler
take out death
get myself fixed
get SW
settle with Dapper (did not need the pawn shop but hey, ...)
take out guard, neve, doctor, thugs
ride away into the sunset (oops sunrise) with Clara

So, what is missing?

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:11 pm

I think I've got the list on my drive someplace, I'll look and write it up if it's here.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:41 pm

OK, I took a look and came up with this...

10 for defusing the bomb
5 for spending the night at Clara's
10 for Failed Romero
10 for Leandra
10 for Scorez
10 for McCormick
10 for getting self fixed
5 for completing chapter 3
10 for getting out of the cell
10 for getting into the garage
10 for winning the game

... Weird. I think you've listed doing everything that should give you points. Oh, wait -- the thug with shades -- maybe that was different than capturing McCormick.

McCormick has shades, but he's not really a thug. I think he's in the process of trying to rob the music store when you see him. If you follow him he'll take you to an area where you can best him and get the bounty on him. I think there are cockfights going on where he is hiding after he leaves the music store. I'll check to be sure.

Morningstar · Post by **Morningstar** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:16 am

what is "10 for Scorez"?

Lex. · Post by **Lex.** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:00 am

I could never get Scorez. :(

Lex. · Post by **Lex.** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:01 am

That being said, I also never slept with Clara.
But way to add that to the "points" system, you cheuvanist!

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:08 pm

Morningstar wrote:what is "10 for Scorez"?

Oh -- Admiral Scorez is the guy who is running on the bus should you take it. Defeating him, as he is a bit of a kiddie-o-phile and collecting the bounty should net you 10 points.

I think there are four people you can get a bounty on: Leandra, Scorez, McCormick and Failed Romero. (The fifth one would have been Johnny Dapper, but there's no way in the game to defeat him.)

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:15 pm

Lex. wrote:That being said, I also never slept with Clara.
But way to add that to the "points" system, you cheuvanist!

You get it by silently curling up in her bean bag chair like a dog I think though.

Morningstar · Post by **Morningstar** » Mon May 02, 2005 8:02 am

Thanks, Admiral Scorez was the 10 point missing to reach a final score of 100. Also the only one that Delarion really has to kill to save lives. All others are left unconscious, but not dead. (Asimov's laws?)

By the same laws I thought it was necessary to get McCormick by duking it out with him in the store, to save the life of the shop owner. This means I got his 10 points and bounty, but I never saw the cockfight arena or the prostitute. But I guess the laws do not require foresight who is going to be killed ...

So, one last question: Is there anything I can do with the serial cable that Dapper brings me? Or is the cable just there to make the point that Delarion does not want to leave anything except an upper-decker ?

Morningstar · Post by **Morningstar** » Mon May 02, 2005 8:14 am

Lex. wrote:I could never get Scorez. :(

He always killed you? Here's a hint: talk to the bus driver

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Mon May 02, 2005 11:52 am

Did I play a version missing something? I never saw an admiral.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Mon May 02, 2005 12:00 pm

Worm wrote:Did I play a version missing something? I never saw an admiral.

He was the guy on the bus, played by Walrustitty. If you didn't interact with him he'd simply bring the little kid on the bus to some place where he could kill her. I think Porn gives you enough motivation to go after the guy by stating what a creep he is.

Also, the picture of Admiral Scorez getting run over was done when JQW and I visited old JC poster "The REAL Man" in California. TRM owns a bus and we parked it outside the Mann's Chinese Theatre. Of all the things that were Photoshopped in that game, Scorez sitting on a bus and acting like he got run over is not one of them.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:07 pm

I totally missed this part.

Morningstar · Post by **Morningstar** » Tue May 03, 2005 1:07 am

I still would like to know what's the deal with the serial cable?

Red Herring?

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed May 04, 2005 12:01 pm

Morningstar wrote::smile:
Thanks, Admiral Scorez was the 10 point missing to reach a final score of 100. Also the only one that Delarion really has to kill to save lives. All others are left unconscious, but not dead. (Asimov's laws?)

Oh, hey, is he dead? I guess getting flattened by a city bus would do that. I don't know if I ever expressed my intent that Yar didn't mean to kill anybody, it's just that sometimes buses don't have adjustable power levels.

So, one last question: Is there anything I can do with the serial cable that Dapper brings me? Or is the cable just there to make the point that Delarion does not want to leave anything except an upper-decker ?

I think you can use it to plug into the security system in the jail cell. I'll take a look tonight and see if that's right or if it became a "deleted scene" (literally). It was definitely in the design doc.

Worm · Post by **Worm** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:32 pm

I thought you strangled the guard with the serial cable.

Lady Strange · Post by **Lady Strange** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:50 am

I can't leave the robotics shop after defeating Failed Romero. I've tried the N, S, E, W directions and nothing happened. i tried the command "leave shop" but nothing happened either.

I replayed the game sans the romero part and am now stuck on the 1st floor of the prison buiding. I have a pistol, neve's keypass, a cyan ree pill, a magenta ree pill, a cannon. I can't seem to open the receptionist's door. Is there a key somewhere that I missed?

Roody_Yogurt · Post by **Roody_Yogurt** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:02 pm

Try "out" or "exit", maybe.

Lady Strange · Post by **Lady Strange** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:47 am

Thanks. I managed to get out of the robotics shop.

Now, how do I find Leandra? I've been to Loome street, but I can't seem to find her residence. I've tried the abandoned townhouse, but I can't unlock the door.

Any hints as to where I can find her?

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:52 pm

I, also, made a point of shooting the living fuck out of McCormic as soon as I saw him so as not to let him shoot my buddy there. I think that's what most people will do, honestly. As such, I didn't even konw there was another part to get to. I also never rode the bus so I didn't know about the creepy pedophile dude.

One thing that really irritated me about hte McCormic thing was that shooting him before he shot the guy didn't count as an insta-kill. Why wouldn't it? I have hte drop on him and the time to aim for a headshot. Also, talking to him (if I recall) won't haved him notice me so he'll continue with the scene of robbing the store. I'm a bit unsure on that point though, I just remember htat something about it struck me as wrong.

I dont' really think it's very fair of you to lock a section of the game off to people who try to save peoples' lives. Maybe give McCormic a note or something that says where he's going? IT kind of makes sense, twitchy as he is, taht he'd need to write that kind of shit down. Then you could find your way over there yourself.

The serial cable scene is still in the game, though it's also bypassable. I also thought you should be able to strangle the thug with the thing, and also--a security guard with no gun? What the fuck?