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Top 100 gadgets since 1923

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Picking humanity's 100 greatest gadgets is no easy task. If we were starting from the beginning of humanity itself, the list would actually be a lot easier to compile: the wheel, the lever, the telescope, the syringe, movable type — the roster practically writes itself. But we're masochists and decided to limit the list to the 100 most influential personal gadgets created since 1923 — the year TIME started publishing. You'll see a lot of items that get the nod simply because they were the first of their kind. First may not always be best, but it's surely a sign of smart innovation. We're sure you won't agree with all of our choices, but what kind of list would it be without some controversy? Oh, and one thing we left completely up to you: our list is in no particular order, so feel free to pick your own No. 1.




I have to disagree with several of these. The list starts back in 1923 and they have the Kindle as No. 1. A device that hasn't been out for more than a decade. I could think of a lot more gadgets that should be in the #1 spot.
I do like the Mattell hand-held football game being in the list, tho.

(EDIT: I think the author is a little Apple-heavy in his list, BTW)

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Are they still voting? Because now the iPod is #1.

I think a lot of those are too specific. The MusicGremlin Wi-Fi MP3 Player? Really? And no Walkman? And no digital watches?
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Weighing in at less than 5 lb., the Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100 was one of the first portable computers known as laptops. Released in 1983, the Model 100 was powered by a 2.4-MHz processor with 32 KB of memory. The base model retailed for $799 and included applications like a word processor and an internal 300-baud modem. Four alkaline AA batteries could power the Model 100 for up to 20 hours. You'd be lucky to get four hours on a standard laptop nowadays with that.

Someone, now, show me a laptop that will run for 4 hours on 4 AA batteries. My old laptop had a battery the size of a brick and ran for 15 minutes.
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Flack wrote:]Four alkaline AA batteries could power the Model 100 for up to 20 hours. You'd be lucky to get four hours on a standard laptop nowadays with that.
I'd be lucky to get four hours on my digital video camera on 3 AAA batteries. (It uses 3 not 4)
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And what about 4 color pens, huh? Those slightly larger pens that, with a simple click of the slider, could instantly change from four different colors. What's up with that not being on the list!
I remember a chum at school (chum!) who had a six or eight color version of the multi-color pen. It was like writing with a dildo... only at school... and the curtains didn't need to be washed afterwords.

Anyway, why is that gadget not on the list. I demand equal list time for non-electronic devices!


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The greatest gadget since 1923 is the Union of Soviet Socialist Repub--
Wikipedia wrote:The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, informally known as the Soviet Union, was a constitutionally socialist state that existed on the territory of most of the former Russian Empire in Eurasia between 1922 and 1991.
WELL FUCK THIS THEN, I guess it's the Transformer "Perceptor."
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here is a video extolling the worst gadgets of all time.


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AArdvark wrote:here is a video extolling the worst gadgets of all time.
I think they're spot-on right naming Windows Vista as possibly the worst of the worst. "When you have to add an option to downgrade [to Windows XP], when it is near-universally hated, and it takes you six years to release an operating system that is basically considered worse than its predecessor, you have an excellent candidate for worst invention of all time."
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No arguments there. Is software considered a gadget?

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There are so many things wrong with that list that I don't even know where to begin. It's like having 100 mosquito bites and not knowing which one to scratch.

Let's start with the computer section. I see they listed the Commodore and that's great, but it's one of the few great choices they made.

Here's the reality -- say what you want about the Altair, but if it weren't for the TRS-80 Model I and the Commodore PET, then none of us would be doing "this". Nobody you know had an Altair sitting at home. It wasn't until machines had keyboards that computers became remotely accessible. If you don't want to add those machines, then hell, add the computer keyboard. Another thing I would add? The hard drive. Instead, they added things like calculators and the Zip Drive. THE ZIP DRIVE. The Zip Drive was an expensive alternative to floppy disks that didn't catch on and can be found in every thrift store for about $3. Another thing I would put on the list? Color bubble jet printers. For 20 years nobody could afford color printing and suddenly Canon came out with color printers that cost $99. Hell, nowadays the ink is more expensive than the printers! Either the Canon Bubble Jet or the HP LaserJet should be on that list.

I glanced at the camera section and didn't see Canon AE-1 or the Polaroid Instamatic so I quit reading it.

I didn't see CD or DVD Burners on there although I may have missed it. Actually I didn't see anything related to cassettes or CDs, other than the Walkman. Did Sony and Apple sponsor this list?

In "home" we get the "iRobot Roomba" but not the microwave. Or cable TV.

I just ... I ... GRRRR!
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are you guys sure it's not alphabetical?
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Flack wrote: Another thing I would add? The hard drive. Instead, they added things like calculators and the Zip Drive. THE ZIP DRIVE. The Zip Drive was an expensive alternative to floppy disks that didn't catch on and can be found in every thrift store for about $3.
Flack, you're making one mistake, like thinking that because you're able to write grammatically now, that taking Second Grade was unnecessary way back when.

When the Zip Drive came out it did a really great thing. It provided the capacity to transport a (then) whopping 100 megabytes of data for about $8 or so. It gave you the capacity of a hard drive in a portable container you could stick in a shirt pocket.

Plus you plugged it in to the printer port with a DOS device driver to turn it into an extra disc drive, so basically it hooked up to almost any computer. Later they had an IDE version that you just connected to the hard drive cable, put it in a 5 1/4" or (without rails) 3 1/2" slot, and you had a machine that you could insert a 100 mb hard drive any time you wanted, remove it and take it with you.

More than once, backing up everything I did at work onto a Zip disc saved my bacon when I'd made a mistake and could go back to a previous set of files.

I've owned both the portable and the IDE Zip drive. I probably still have some Zip discs even though I don't own a Zip drive any more.

It was great and it provided a really good solution for being able to carry a lot of files in not a lot of space.

The problem was because Iomega acted arrogantly as other alternatives came along, instead of possibly licensing alternative manufacturers or otherwise allowing prices to fall, they kept the price of zip disks artificially high. As other more cost-effective alternatives became available Iomega failed to recognize the market was changing.

When the other one with gigabyte removable drives came out - was it the Jaz? - I bought one of those. It was from some company other than Iomega, I forget whom.

Then CD burners really became affordable. With CD-RW drives and packet writing using the UDF disk format, it more-or-less spelled the death knell for Zip (and Jaz) drives. Now you basically have a 79c floppy disc that holds 500 meg. An $8 100-meg zip disk or $12 gigabyte Jaz cartridges can't hold a candle against a disc that holds 1/2 a gigabyte (later boosted to 700 meg) costs about 79c and is essentially rewritable hundreds to a thousand times.

For really large backup now, you can buy a Blu-Ray writer, the price is down to a shocking $99 at Micro Center. I was wrong about the price, too. I first thought Blu-Ray blanks are about $9, but I was wrong. Blu-Ray is competitive with DVD-R, about $2 each for a 25GB disc in quantity 10 vs about 26c each for a 4GB DVD in quantity 50, which means to get 25GB all in one disk, the 'penalty' is only 75c over DVD. So if you have to backup 25 GB, you can spend about $1.55 and use 6 DVDs or spend $2 and use 1 Blu Ray. Given the extra convenience for large backups it's noise.

I bought an external USB DVD writer I planned to use for something back around late 2009 and I think I paid $70. At $99 for a Blu-Ray writer I'm seriously considering getting one, my MP3 collection could fill at least 1, I think my last music backup used over 4 DVDs.

After I wrote the above I checked; there are probably duplicates but currently my music directories alone contain 52 GB, 378 folders and 34,098 files. Video takes up another 12 GB and another 3,100 files. My master directory, the "C:\Paul" directory is another 48 GB and circa 143,000 more files; it includes the video files; if I recounted both, it's 60 GB and 146,000 files.
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I would also maintain that the Zip disk was trash. I hated it. What a debacle.

They were slow and unreliable, and didn't hold THAT much data. My pals and I all went in on a CD burner early*, so I will admit we were outliers who never had the chance to see the technology as useful, but it sucked, sucked, sucked. I hate it SO much.

And they were so inanely bulky. And a stupid color for the drive, too. It didn't help that they came out before USB. Trying to get them to work over a SCSI or LPT port was a goddamn horror show. The only list they belong on is hardware I've broken my dick off into.


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Tdarcos wrote:It was great and ...
I am glad you owned and enjoyed owning a Zip Drive, but I still don't think it deserves to be one of the top 100 gadgets of all time. The original Zip Drive which held 100 meg of data per disk came out in 1994. In the fall of 1995 I had a CD-Rom burner on my desk at work that could store 650 meg per disk. In my book, the top 100 gadgets of all time needed to be useful for more than a year.

In 1994, 100 meg Zip Disks were $20 each. In 1995, CD-Rs were around $10 each. If you wanted to back up 600 meg of data, you needed $120 worth of Zip Disks, or a single $10 CD-R. A couple of years later, CD-Rs were down to $5 each and the price of Zip Disks was the same, or went up!

I have a stack of Zip Disks and Zip Disk Drives upstairs (I tossed most of the parallel port ones I accumulated; I still have a couple of USB ones). I have a Nintendo 64 console copier that uses them. Unfortunately it has the oldest drive, which means it won't read 250 meg disks at all. I have one 250 meg drive which will write to but not format 100 meg disks. I found a 700 meg Zip Disk Drive once, but it won't even read the old 100 meg disks so I got rid of it.

Zip Disks weren't all that portable, either. The original one I had was SCSI, which meant any machine I plugged it into needed an external SCSI port (not many). The parallel port ones were a little better, but you still had to install drivers before it would work.

I dunno. To me they were expensive and not really all that portable and they were made obsolete pretty quickly. I don't hate them, but they didn't change the world enough for me to put them on a top 100 gadget list.
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:They were slow and unreliable ...
Like I said I don't have a whole lot of experience with them, but I've picked up lots of Zip Disks from thrift stores and they all seem to still contain readable data. Usually they are business backups, although occasionally they contain pictures or something. One time I got some lady's entire tax business on one disk. Now that's good storage!

Compare that to my CD-R discs from 1995 which are flaking off and dying. Fortunately I backed them up a few years ago, but yeah, that first generation of CD-R discs weren't all that great.

The cheapest backup solution right now I think are hard disks. TigerDirect has 2tb hard drives for 99 bucks. Doing the math (ughhhhh) that's ... well, about 3,076 CD-R discs (figuring 650 meg) or 445 blank DVD-R discs. And that doesn't count the timed needed to actually burn that many disks.
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Flack wrote:
Tdarcos wrote:It was great and ...
I am glad you owned and enjoyed owning a Zip Drive, but
Paul, I am *not* glad you enjoyed owning one. It makes me uncontrollably, savagely angry and I don't know why. The question is... what are YOU going to do about it?
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Flack wrote:
Tdarcos wrote:It was great and ...
I am glad you owned and enjoyed owning a Zip Drive, but
Paul, I am *not* glad you enjoyed owning one. It makes me uncontrollably, savagely angry and I don't know why. The question is... what are YOU going to do about it?
Answer (1): "WE DON'T DO QUIZZES AROUND HERE!"

Answer (2): "Uh, I don't know, 'publicly eat shit off a plate in Walmart,' maybe?" :)
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