[quote]Because there's too much food out there.[/quote]


But aren't there people starving in third world countries?

Yes, but you see, they can't pay for any of this high fat, major carb food that keeps rich Americans insulated like barking harbor seals.
Why even the poor people of this county are living like (well fed) kings compared to say, places in Africa and Asia. cable TV and diet pet food...


THE
CYNICAL
AARDVARK

[quote="pinback"]grasping at annoying little peckerhead straws[/quote]

Let's tread lightly here, Pinner.

get back to the fat hicks rolling about in the supermarket. That was the fun part.



THE
HEE HAW
AARDVARK

[quote="Worm"]They just use low fat milk and probably less butter. This is not the fucking creation of Frakenstein.
[/quote]

Ok, something uses less butter. Butter is yummy. So, if someone uses less, it'll either taste not as good, or else they substituted the butter with the fake ersatz maizola trash, which is chemicals. Ok, something uses less milk. Either they use so little less milk that there's no difference in taste, and therefore your calorie diminishment is like 2 grams of fat (18 calories), which you can burn off by getting out of the chair every now and again, and in which case they should not try and gull a desperate public that this product will help them, or they use significantly less milk, and the consistency and taste of the recipe might be slightly different. Alot different? Maybe, maybe not. But why shop at a store that makes that choice for you?

All of your ideas are equally bad, Worm.

So, I guess if I had to choose between a high-quality Worm idea and a low-quality Worm idea, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE TO MAKE AT ALL!!!!!!!

So it's my worse than my "kill all drug dealers" idea?

FUCK YOU, Worm. You're intentionally trying to be contentious and argumentative, grasping at annoying little peckerhead straws to bolster maybe the most untenable, STUPID viewpoint I've ever heard in the history of this website.

For some reason I thought she was reading of butter, sugar, and milk as a listing of the ingredients what is in yogurt. If she is talking about everything BUT yogurt it's relevant?

FUCK YOU, Worm. She wasn't talking about YOGURT specifically. She was speaking more generally about the avalanche of "lowfat" and "nonfat" alternative versions of actual food which infest the grocery stores of this country.

And if you can't tell the difference between regular Triscuits and the "diet" kind, then I do think it's definitely time to go into the doctor and get your mouth checked.

Ah, might as well have 'em take a look at your whole damn HEAD while you're there, the way you've been acting lately.

Except for how low fat yogurt is made.
[quote="Dannon"]Lowfat yogurt made from lowfat milk, reduced-fat milk or part-skim milk has between 0.5 and 2% milk fat. Dannon has several lowfat yogurts, which include Fruit on the Bottom, Plain Lowfat, Natural Flavors, Sprinkl'ins, Danimals Drinkable, Whipped and Fruit Blends.[/quote]
Though I'm sure somewhere they use magic, laser beams, and lead paint to make lowfat yogurt.

http://www.dannon.com/wellness/yourHealth/whatsInOurYogurt.php

[quote="Dannon"]Live and Active Yogurt Cultures: Lactobacillus bulgaricus and Streptococcus thermophilus are added to the milk. In addition, some Dannon cup yogurts contain a third culture called Lactobacillus acidophilus. These cultures are carefully cultivated in Dannon laboratories by expert yogurt technologists. [/quote]
Yogurt sounds disgusting sans milk.

Everything Vitriola has said in her last two posts, particularly the one directly above this one, is 100% exactly correct.

So, basically, I have nothing to add to this thread except: VIRTIOLA WIL U MARRY ME!?!?!

[quote="Worm"]Well he's at it that consumer knight better pick up some high carb stuff, as it is going the way of the dodo.[/quote]

Wha...?

Low carb is a trend. And an unfortunate one. Grams of fat content obsession is another. Here's how it works with both of these:

Your body burns fat differently than it burns carbs. When it burns all the available carbs, it has to switch to the fat burning process. There's a small gap there where you're not burning much, just like when you gear shift a standard car. So, the theory is, if you eat no carbs, you're burning fat (or, calories) at a higher rate because you're skipping that small gap. So people eat all this low carb shit, thinking they're gold, when the stupid fools don't realize that they may be burning fat, but eating more calories than you burn off is just going to turn the extra right back into fat. Let me say that again: EATING MORE CALORIES THAN YOU BURN WILL JUST TURN THE EXTRA BACK INTO FAT.

As for fat gram obsession: fat is the densest form of food, with 9 calories per gram. As opposed to water with 0, or sugar with whatever it is in between, or anything else. So, if you have 2 unidentified masses of food in front of you at a party, or on a buffet, you can assume that the least fat food has the least calories. Fair enough. However, when you're at the grocery store, or a fast food restaurant, where you KNOW the number of calories you're getting, THE FAT CONTENT DOES NOT MATTER. If something is 800 calories with 4 grams of fat, IT IS WORSE than something with 300 calories and 26 grams of fat. If you want to eat healthy (i.e. no fat), eat fruit. If you want to lose weight, EAT LESS CALORIES THAN YOU BURN, BECAUSE THE REST WILL TURN INTO FAT.

People think they if they eat low carb, they're going to get thin. If they count fat grams, they're going to get thin. They need to EAT LESS. PERIOD. The only thing that matters is calories.

[quote="Vitriola"]
Second point: Look at it this way. Butter, sugar, milk; all (sorta) natural things, healthy not used to excess. But what about all that low-fat crap? Manipulated, chemically bloated, synthetic garbage that nobody knows what will really do to them decades down the road. You want that shit in your body? [/quote]
They just use low fat milk and probably less butter. This is not the fucking creation of Frakenstein.

[quote="Vitriola"]
Third: Ben voted with his dollar. If people don't buy the organic, the natural, the wholesome, it might get harder and harder to find.
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Well he's at it that consumer knight better pick up some high carb stuff, as it is going the way of the dodo.

[quote="Vitriola"]
The 5: Some products have a very different taste in their lower lard compadres than others. Triscuit crackers might as well come from a different planet, while crescent rolls are hardly noticable.
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I can't tell the difference in Triscuits.

[quote="Worm"]I'm saying that if the taste of the food doesn't make you horribly ill why not experience it? If I could experience the pain of a hammer hit to the head with no physical damage why not? It's all for the experience.[/quote]

Because there's too much food out there. It's like when some band puts out an album, and it kinda sucks, and everyone knows it sucks, but the fans have to listen to it 25 times and point out that it gets better, and really track 3 isn't all that vomit-inspiring, and you should give it another chance, blah blah. There's too many better things to do with one's time, money, and taste to bother with the sub-par.

Second point: Look at it this way. Butter, sugar, milk; all (sorta) natural things, healthy not used to excess. But what about all that low-fat crap? Manipulated, chemically bloated, synthetic garbage that nobody knows what will really do to them decades down the road. You want that shit in your body? If you cared at all about your toxin load, you'd use sugar over sweetener, butter over margarine, fatty food over products that have sweetener or margarine or any of that other crap substituted, organic milk with the happy cows on the carton, and eat [i]less[/i] of it. If fat didn't taste so good, there's wouldn't be such a problem with overweight people. If you don't have a weight problem, use the most natural products. And if you DO have a weight problem, stop thinking that the 25 calories you save from buying the low fat over the natural product is going to make that much of a difference in body weight.

Third: Ben voted with his dollar. If people don't buy the organic, the natural, the wholesome, it might get harder and harder to find.

Fourth: Since the industry isn't very regulated when it comes to labels, you should make sure that when you see something marked as 'low-fat', it's not just the same product with a different label. Well, if you care about that stuff. The same way that some bleaches say 'We don't use sulphur!' or some shit, the way chinese restaurants say 'no MSG' and cold medicines say "No PPA!!!!!", as if [i]anyone[/i] uses it anymore, you could be buying the same product with a new label.

The 5: Some products have a very different taste in their lower lard compadres than others. Triscuit crackers might as well come from a different planet, while crescent rolls are hardly noticable.

6: Support local music THAT IS ALL.

The percentage of total income spent on food has absolutely plummetted in the last fifty some-odd years.

That's when.

Also, see: Many many years before you were born. If you want to talk like a Depression-era grandmother, you're about 75 years too late.

Oh, I'm not a spoiled snot about food? Or is there something else? When did people stop being happy that they could afford food to eat?

[quote="Worm"]I'm saying that if the taste of the food doesn't make you horribly ill why not experience it?[/quote]

You're telling me that I should experience NONFAT YOGURT, instead of buying regular yogurt?

Look, you know nothing about cooking, nothing about food, and very little about anything else, so just stop right now. Just stop it.

[quote="Worm"]why not? It's all for the experience.[/quote]

Oh, man, I miss being a teenager sometimes.

I used to be <i>just like this</i> about drugs.

Now that I'm an old fart, I prefer to think, "Grrrr. I hate you all. If I've never tried it, I'll probably hate it. Bartender! Another triple Scotch, neat."

Bruce

Well, your example is quite nice and ham fisted. I think I need to restate what I am saying.

I'm saying that if the taste of the food doesn't make you horribly ill why not experience it? If I could experience the pain of a hammer hit to the head with no physical damage why not? It's all for the experience.

[quote="Worm"]You should just try things you don't like every now and then.[/quote]

You should [i]try[/i] things you [i]don't like[/i]?

"Try" implies that it's a first experiment, and "don't like" implies that you've already tried it, and don't like it.

So why the hell would you "try" something you already know you don't like?

"Here, hit yourself in the head with a hammer. I know, it didn't work out for you the last time, but maybe this time will be different!"

Donnie, you're out of your element.